A Priest, a Rabbi, and a Muslim Leader Get High

Nearly a decade ago, researchers at Johns Hopkins University gave some two dozen religious leaders from various faith backgrounds a high dose of psilocybin. Now, the long-awaited results of the study are out. Journalist Michael Pollan, who wrote about the research for The New Yorker, weighs in on whether science can ever truly measure mysticism.

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