“I Met The Head Of The Entire UFO Program!” - Grant Cameron

Our American Alchemist this week is Grant Cameron, a Canadian UFO researcher, author, and longtime investigator of government secrecy and the UFO phenomenon.

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Grant Cameron has investigated UFOs since 1975, when a series of sightings known as “Charlie Red Star” drew him into the subject. Over the decades, his research has taken him through presidential UFO records, government documents, alleged crash-retrieval programs, intelligence insiders, and figures including Eric Walker, Bob Lazar, Tim Taylor, and members of the CIA community. In this conversation, Cameron recounts his interactions with alleged UFO insiders, explains how he obtained the Wilson-Davis memo, discusses the CIA’s so-called “Weird Desk,” government disinformation and managed disclosure, alleged UFO retrievals, portals and time travel programs, and why he believes the deepest secret behind the phenomenon may be consciousness rather than the craft themselves.

Explore Grant Cameron’s books, including his latest, Beyond Managing Magic 2: Landing the Plane: https://itsallconnected.weebly.com/books.html

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TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Intro

02:30 Sponsor — Incogni

06:22 Carman, Manitoba and Charlie Red Star

08:42 The night it came in front of the car

11:35 "That is so cool — but what is it doing?"

14:14 The Mickelsen Safeguard site and the 1975 wave

16:52 Stan Romanek

19:33 The Audrey phone calls

22:32 John Alexander turns up

25:41 Back to 1975: is there footage?

28:21 Ray Hernandez and the contact modalities

30:29 Wilbert B. Smith and Project Magnet

33:32 The Top Secret memo — the five points

36:02 William Steinman and Dr. Eric Wang

39:08 Roswell, Doty and the first phone calls

41:45 Loring, Wurtsmith, Minot: autumn 1975

44:55 The LBJ UFO study

47:24 The panel: the same names every time

49:45 Frances Swan, the channeler from Eliot, Maine

52:04 Vannevar Bush and the dollar-a-year men

54:12 "Go to the window"

56:32 Bob Jacobs and the 1964 Vandenberg film

59:23 Paul Shartle at Norton AFB

1:02:05 Holloman: 1971 or 1964?

1:04:14 Close Encounters and the Spielberg connection

1:06:27 The F-4 debunk

1:08:27 "The Pentagon storyboarded it"

1:10:55 Does the Vandenberg film still exist?

1:13:17 Congress and the classified film

1:18:40 How the Wilson-Davis memo got onto the internet

1:21:01 Teller, the Q clearance and December 6th

1:23:54 Tim Good: only at the base five or six times

1:26:39 Ad break — Ridge and MUD\WTR

1:29:30 Why they never fired Lazar

1:31:56 DARPA: talking to a computer with your mind

1:35:16 Is the disclosure push their plan?

1:37:32 Jim Semivan's seven-hour briefing

1:40:03 A craft that only opens if you vibrate right

1:42:30 Ron Johnson in the spirit world

1:44:56 Do the beings need bases?

1:47:08 "What do you know about ESP?"

1:49:44 Kingman: "How do you know they didn't walk away?"

1:51:41 Malmgren, Bobby Ray Inman and IDA

1:54:19 How Steinman found Eric Walker

1:56:07 "Why change the rules to satisfy your curiosity?"

1:57:50 Nixon, Jackie Gleason and Homestead

2:01:34 The Nixon letter to Emenegger

2:03:51 Paul Hellyer's dying witness

2:06:20 Stephen Lovekin, Eisenhower and Mount Weather

2:09:31 Reading the presidential libraries

2:11:44 The Reince Priebus briefing

2:13:48 Tim Taylor, NASA and Chris Bledsoe

2:16:13 Meeting Tim Taylor in 2013

2:18:44 The breadcrumbs: paintings and a postcard

2:20:16 The jump room

2:23:44 The Panama Canal tape

2:26:46 Dan Smith, Los Alamos and live aliens

2:29:24 The Jasons and gravitational waves

2:32:36 The Rockefeller Initiative

2:35:14 Kit Green goes to see Eric Walker

2:37:40 Semivan, Green and Tom DeLonge

2:40:43 Hillary, Kimmel and the practiced answer

2:42:34 The tar baby

2:44:46 Trump caught off guard

2:47:18 Portal tech versus nuts and bolts

2:49:35 The 36 people who flew the craft

2:52:33 Someone always standing behind you

2:55:08 "It is within you"

2:56:59 Skepticism, Descartes and the left-brain interpreter

3:00:24 Skinwalker Ranch is reflective

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