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Aspects of History

The Nazi and the Psychiatrist with Jack El-Hai

31 min3 april 2026

This week’s episode of the Aspects of History⁠⁠⁠⁠ podcast sees historian ⁠Phil Craig⁠⁠⁠⁠ joined by author Jack El-Hai to explore the disturbing psychological drama behind the Nuremberg Trials.

After last year’s adaptation starring Rami Malek and Russell Crowe, the journalist discusses his book, The Nazi and the Psychiatrist, the uncanny relationship between US Army physician Douglas Kelley and the war criminal Hermann Göring, and what it reveals to us eighty years later about the nature of evil.

Drawing on personal archival material, what follows is a gripping conversation about power, personality, and the disconcerting idea that the 20th century’s worst crimes might be rooted in ordinary human behaviour.


Episode Links

⁠The Nazi and the Psychiatrist: Hermann Goring, Dr. Douglas M. Kelley, and a Fatal Meeting of Minds at the End of WWII by Jack El-Hai


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