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The Robotaxi Industry's Real Bottleneck Is Not AI. It's the Curb

44 min5 augusti 2026

Everyone in autonomous driving argues about sensors, foundation models and remote assistance ratios. Almost nobody argues about the last ten meters. Bern Grush, CEO of Pudocity, on why the robotaxi industry's real constraint is not the AI. It is deciding where the vehicle stops.

Safety is an engineering problem, and engineering problems eventually get solved. Pickup and drop-off is not. It is a spatial management problem, and every robotaxi competes for a fixed resource at the curb against every other vehicle in the city. Which produces the prediction at the center of this conversation: as the industry scales, it will get safer and more congested at the same time.

A fleet of 1,000 robotaxis generates roughly 25 million pickup, drop-off and staging events per year. Even a small failure rate becomes a million annual opportunities for a blocked bike lane, a blocked bus lane or a blocked fire truck. We cover what actually goes wrong at the curb, why better AI cannot fix a conflict that is fundamentally social, why five vehicles at one address can break a street, and what happens when three competing fleets surge to the same stadium curb with no coordination layer.

We also get into how Pudocity's Curb Reserver works, who licenses it, who pays and who owns the data, why Bern drafts the ISO standards and builds the product at the same time, and the part that matters most for Europe: US states have preempted their own cities out of curb management, EU urban density is three to four times higher, and the window to write one clause into deployment permits is open right now.

TIMESTAMPS

0:00 - Safer and more congested at the same time
0:55 - Nobody is debating the last ten meters
1:52 - The claim: the Achilles heel is not the AI
3:40 - But Waymo does hundreds of thousands of rides a week
5:11 - Why AI cannot replicate human improvisation at the curb
6:19 - Hard problem, or just an unglamorous one
8:16 - What actually goes wrong at the curb today
10:04 - When annoyance becomes a systemic problem
11:09 - Vans, buses, bikes: new problem or exposed problem
12:43 - Accessibility, and why it is also a commercial issue
14:05 - Public space for private fleets: reservation is not ownership 15:32 - Three fleets, one stadium, no coordination layer
17:04 - Inside Pudocity: how the Curb Reserver works
18:33 - Why the orchestration layer has to be independent
19:56 - Who actually pays for it
21:06 - Beyond robotaxis: goods, charging, staging, personal AVs
23:11 - Selling to cities vs. operators, and the biggest surprise
25:13 - The moat: patents, standards, network effects
26:41 - ISO 4448 and ISO 25614 without the jargon
29:24 - Why standards, not lobbying, are the leverage point
30:33 - Do standards freeze immature technology too early
31:59 - Inside the WEF Global Future Council on Autonomous Systems 34:13 - Is the curb problem worse in Barcelona than in Phoenix
35:45 - The one clause every transport minister should write into permits
39:02 - Who should own the curb data
39:58 - The AV belief Bern says is simply wrong
41:42 - Next steps for operators, cities and investors
43:48 - Closing thoughts

LINKS

The AV Market Strategist (newsletter) - https://avmarketstrategist.substack.com

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