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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View

What does Spain’s blackout mean for the future of clean energy?

42 min7 maj 2025

Greg Jackson, CEO of Octopus Energy, joins Azeem to discuss the Iberian blackout and how we can create a more stable, flexible, and resilient energy grid for the future. This conversation digs into grid technology, market structures, and the real opportunities of the clean energy transition. 

  • (00:00) Episode trailer 
  • (01:38)  What caused the Iberian blackout? 
  • (04:55)  Managing load in traditional vs renewable grids 
  • (11:57) The role of market incentives 
  • (18:13)  Greg's social experiments within the UK grid 
  • (23:49)  How the "virtual power plant" is becoming a reality 
  • (26:59)  The path to completing the renewable energy transition 
  • (33:15)  Are lobbyists slowing down the transition? 
  • (36:26)  What does the next 5-10 years look like? 
  • (40:42)  Why the name "Octopus?" 

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