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What does Spain’s blackout mean for the future of clean energy?

42 min • 7 maj 2025

Greg Jackson, CEO of Octopus Energy, joins Azeem to discuss the Iberian blackout and how we can create a more stable, flexible, and resilient energy grid for the future. This conversation digs into grid technology, market structures, and the real opportunities of the clean energy transition.

(00:00) Episode trailer
(01:38) What caused the Iberian blackout?
(04:55) Managing load in traditional vs renewable grids
(11:57) The role of market incentives
(18:13) Greg's social experiments within the UK grid
(23:49) How the "virtual power plant" is becoming a reality
(26:59) The path to completing the renewable energy transition
(33:15) Are lobbyists slowing down the transition?
(36:26) What does the next 5-10 years look like?
(40:42) Why the name "Octopus?"

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