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Back On The Grind

Surviving 13 Years in Prison w/ Ping Lieu #27

52 min15 maj 2024

Pepe talks with Ping Lieu who spent 13 years in prison for discussing a potential crime he never actually carried out. This is an older but unreleased episode Pepe recorded while he was fighting his own case and preparing to enter prison himself.


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  • What led Ping to serve 13 years in prison
  • What it was like for Ping to receive his sentence
  • The hardest moment of Ping's life & a moment of relief
  • Crying & the emotional tension it let loose
  • The different security levels in prison
  • The hardest aspect of being in prison
  • Useful skills learned in prison
  • Benefits & challenges of being Asian in prison
  • What Ping would've done differently in prison
  • Struggles after release
  • What Ping started doing after release
  • Advice for people potentially facing incarceration






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