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Gemini 4 Changed How Google Builds Products | Jaclyn Konzelmann

33 min•1 november 2026

Om avsnittet

Jaclyn is a product director at Google Labs and we had a great chat about how Gemini 4 changed her product job, how she keeps AI slop out of her team's docs and products, and how she's raising three kids with AI's help. Gemini 4 Carbon is currently the best model in the world based on benchmarks, and it was fun to get a sneak peek into how Google's own product leaders use it internally.


Jaclyn and I talked about:


(00:00) How Gemini 4 changed the PM job at Google

(02:11) Should it even exist? How Google Labs picks what to build

(09:16) The doc rule that keeps AI slop out of Google Labs

(10:45) Which Labs experiments graduated into the Gemini app

(12:53) Why Google Labs never treats a killed experiment as failure

(17:43) Code is free, so what's actually worth building?

(24:00) Her 5-year-old is the creative director of their AI podcast

(26:30) Best screen time for kids: Creation, not consumption


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📌 Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/gemini-4-changed-how-google-builds-products-jaclyn-konzelmann


Where to find Jaclyn:


X: https://x.com/jacalulu

Substack: https://substack.com/@jacalulu


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