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Real Estate Magnate Elías Sacal: Bitcoin Obsoletes Real Estate as a Store of Value

40 min • 21 juli 2025

In this episode of Bitcoin for Corporations, Pierre Rochard is joined by Elías Sacal, CEO of Murano Global Investments (NASDAQ: MRNO), to explore how Bitcoin is disrupting the traditional real estate investment model. They discuss the global shift from debt-based property financing to Bitcoin-backed corporate treasuries, the diminishing store-of-value premium in real estate, and how holding Bitcoin can unlock new capital strategies for developers.


Elías also shares how Murano is approaching bitcoin adoption, from both a capital raising and operational standpoint, and what this means for the future of capital allocation in Latin America and beyond.


⭐ This episode of the Bitcoin for Corporations Show is sponsored by Ledn, a leading provider of Bitcoin-backed loans.

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Chapters:

00:00 – Introduction

01:00 – Weekly Bitcoin treasury news & BFC member updates

02:00 – Introducing Elias Sacal of Grupo Murano06:00 – Elias' real estate background and path to Bitcoin

09:00 – How Bitcoin unlocks financing for real estate

12:00 – Collateral dynamics: depreciation vs. appreciation

15:00 – Bitcoin vs credit cards and FX costs in property

16:30 – Saylor’s approach to perpetual capital and leverage

23:00 – Real estate’s monetization and the pivot to Bitcoin

28:00 – Why Bitcoin investment could lead to lower rents

29:20 – Explaining sale-leaseback in real estate + BTC context

33:00 – Comparing trophy assets and Bitcoin

36:00 – Internal communication and long-term BTC vision

37:30 – Bitcoin adoption across Latin America

39:00 – Bitcoin ATMs, LATAM usage, and final thoughts


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DISCLAIMER: The views and opinions expressed in this show are those of the participants and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of BTC Inc., Bitcoin Magazine, Bitcoin for Corporations, or any affiliated entities. This content is provided for informational and educational purposes only and should not be construed as investment, legal, tax, or accounting advice. Nothing contained in this show constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or financial instruments. Viewers should consult their own advisors before making financial or business decisions.

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