169: When Magic & Ufology Collide w/ Chris Ramsay

This week, the guys invite magician Chris Ramsay to the show to dive into the world of magic and mysticism. Chris shares his intriguing backstory as a magician and offers a glimpse into the artistry behind illusion. Ryan and Chris also discuss their mutual experiences at the Monroe Institute, the world's premiere organization for the study of human consciousness, delve into meditation, and talk about moments of experiencing the phenomena together.