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Cause & Effect

Software Engineering in the Age of AI #10

1 tim 30 min7 augusti 2026

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John A. De Goes joins Johannes Schickling and Michael Arnaldi to discuss how AI is reshaping software engineering, what developers should still learn, and why Effect’s primitives are especially valuable for coding agents.

John is the creator of ZIO, as well as CEO of Ziverge and Golem Cloud.

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Mentioned in the episode:
Ziverge x Effectful Partership
Effect TS Workshop
The Primitive is the product blog post.

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  • (00:00) - Intro, From ZIO to Effect
  • (06:54) - Software engineering in the age of AI
  • (12:34) - More developers, but a wider skill gap
  • (23:03) - What is still worth learning?
  • (29:40) - Closing the loop around coding agents
  • (39:10) - Preventing engineering skills from atrophying
  • (47:20) - Effect through the eyes of ZIO’s creator
  • (52:42) - Why Effect’s primitives matter more with AI
  • (58:05) - Teaching coding agents to write good Effect code
  • (01:01:25) - Rethinking tests, DRY, and boilerplate
  • (01:08:45) - The Effect Companion
  • (01:18:16) - A role-playing game for learning Effect
  • (01:25:05) - Turning knowledge into a product

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