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CISO Tradecraft®

#148 - Threat Modeling (with Adam Shostack)

38 min25 september 2023

On this episode we bring on the leading expert of threat modeling (Adam Shostack) to discuss the four questions that every team should ask:

  1. What are we working on?
  2. What can go wrong?
  3. What are we going to do about it?
  4. Did we do a good enough job?

Big thanks to our sponsor:

Risk3Sixty - https://risk3sixty.com/whitepaper/

Adam Shostack's LinkedIn Profile - https://www.linkedin.com/in/shostack/

Learn more about threat modeling by checking out Adam's books on threat modeling Threats: What Every Engineer Should Learn From Star Wars https://amzn.to/3PFEv7L

Threat Modeling: Designing for Security https://amzn.to/3ZmfLo7 Also check out the Threat Modeling Manifesto: https://www.threatmodelingmanifesto.org/

Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tu0Xj9QTbVqbVJNMbNRam-FEUvfda3ZS

Chapters

  • 00:00 Introduction
  • 06:02 The 4 Questions that allow you to measure twice cut once
  • 09:29 How Data Flow Diagrams help teams
  • 16:04 It's more than just looking at threats
  • 19:23 Chasing the most fluid thing or the most worrisome thing
  • 22:00 All models are wrong and some are useful
  • 26:25 Actionable Remediation
  • 31:05 LLMs and Threat Models

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