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Climate Curious on Crime: Ep.3 The Shuidong Syndicate case and the psychology of wildlife trafficking, with Dr. Julia Shaw

1 tim 5 min20 oktober 2025

Perceived benevolence, organised crime, undercover operations, the psychology of poaching: tune in to hear the story behind one of world’s most successful wildlife trafficking takedowns cases – The Shuidong Syndicate. Criminal psychologist Dr. Julia Shaw joins Climate Curious co-hosts Ben Hurst and Maryam Pasha to explore why ivory kingpins Xie, Ou, and Wong perpetrated these wildlife crimes, and how “eco-spies” helped catch them. Featuring excerpts from capable guardian Ceres Kam, a senior wildlife campaigner at the Environmental Investigation Agency.


Learn more in Julia’s new book, ‘Green Crime’, https://linktr.ee/drjuliashaw 


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