Governance Isn’t a Dirty Word: Making Policy Part of the Dev Flow with Joe Karlsson

In this episode of the Cloud Native Testing Podcast, Ole Lensmar sits down with Joe Karlsson, Developer Advocate at CloudQuery, to discuss how testing and governance intersect in today’s fast-moving cloud-native environments. They explore what it takes to catch issues like cloud drift, overly permissive configurations, and deprecated services—before they become costly outages.

Joe shares real-world insights from his work helping teams bake governance into CI/CD pipelines without slowing down delivery. From debugging GitHub Actions to building a culture of shared responsibility, this episode is packed with practical advice on making governance feel less like red tape—and more like a safety net for scaling teams.

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