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Cloud Security Podcast by Google

EP277: CISO as CFO, From Citi to Celery, It's All about the Cabbage

25 min13 maj 2026

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Topics:

  • Most people do not associate grocery wholesale and retail with cutting edge technology and threat models. Can you produce the receipts for why this isn't a story of dry goods but rather a very meaty topic with beefy adversaries?
  • How are you as the CISO enabling C&S's journey into AI and LLM driven work? Securing AI is a bit harder than securing classic analytics tools, right?
  • In addition to securely rolling out AI, how is your defense team using AI to secure C&S? Are you into the era of agentic triage and response? What metrics for AI is your D&R lead surfacing up to you?
  • You have AI in the business process that - if failed - will leave people hungry. How do you approach AI resilience?
  • How do you approach resilience in general? Is cloud part of your resilience strategy?
  • You worked at Citigroup for a long time. What's it like having grocery margin budgets for security instead? How does your thinking change? Does this shift your build/buy/outsource for security?
  • If your IoT stack falls over, you've got literal ice cream melting in a warehouse. How do you balance your investments in cyber risk with physical operational risk? Should I be scared of forklifts?

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