Today's episode begins just as a Pentagon briefing on the Chinese balloon situation gets underway. The Chinese claim it's a weather research airship which was blown off course. The US suspects it was spying. What will the White House do about this thorny situation? We speak with a man uniquely qualified to answer that question, former defense secretary, secretary of state, and former CIA director Leon Panetta. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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