Debt ceiling talks productive, but deal remains elusive

First: Both President Biden and House Speaker Kevin McCarthy deem their latest meeting productive, but the two sides still appear to be nowhere near a debt ceiling deal.  Plus: Donald Trump's words at last week's CNN town hall push E. Jean Carroll to seek more damages.  And: Swing voters dread the idea of a Biden-Trump rematch, but their focus group on what would happen if there is one is quite revealing.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices