In this episode, Thomas talks to distinguished BBC journalist Paul Kenyon about his new podcast series Two Nottingham Lads. Paul recalls highlights from his remarkable career, which has taken him from Iran to Libya to Ukraine to Stockport —as he watched, in real time, America lose its grip on the international order.
Paul talks about:
- How two Nottingham lads ended up on opposite sides of the Ukraine War
- The time he was detained by Iranian secret police
- Watching anti-Gaddafi tribesmen ride into Benghazi on horseback
- Accompanying unarmed Ukrainian guards as they marched uphill toward Russian troops
- Getting to know the notorious ISIS brides in the Midlands
- Being the only BBC journalist in Liverpool who witnessed the outbreak of the riots there in summer 2004
Listen to Two Nottingham Lads here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002ntm9
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Executive Producers: Jake Warren & Max Warren.
This episode was produced by Thomas Small and edited by Lizzy Andrews.
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