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CONFLICTED

The True Origins of Modern Terrorism

1 tim 18 min16 april 2026

In this Conflicted Conversation, Thomas speaks to journalist Jason Burke about his new book The Revolutionists: The Story of the Extremists Who Hijacked the 1970s.

Jason explains:

  • Why the origins of modern terrorism lie earlier than the Afghan jihad of the 1980s
  • The global revolutionary ferment of the 1960s and 70s
  • Why early terrorist attacks were often designed to attract attention rather than cause mass casualties
  • The role of Palestinian militant groups in pioneering modern tactics like hijacking
  • Connections between European radicals, Japanese militants, and Middle Eastern groups
  • How states adapted to terrorism through new counterterrorism measures
  • The shift from theatrical violence to mass-casualty and suicide attacks
  • The relationship between secular revolutionary movements and later Islamist militancy
  • The Iranian Revolution as a turning point in the evolution of political violence
  • Why many common narratives about the origins of jihadism are incomplete

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Conflicted is a Message Heard production.

Executive Producers: Jake Warren & Max Warren.

This episode was produced by Thomas Small and edited by Lizzy Andrews.

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