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7-13-24: President Biden's Performance at the NATO Summit

45 min • 13 juli 2024

In this conversation, Charlie and Peter discuss the recent NATO summit and President Biden's performance. They express their concerns about Biden's ability to lead and his lack of coherence during the press conference. They also discuss the impact of the summit on NATO and the ongoing conflicts in Ukraine and Russia. They highlight the panic among NATO leaders and the possibility of a Trump presidency. They also touch on the issue of Ukraine's potential NATO membership and the manipulation of Article 5. The conversation concludes with a discussion about Turkey's military strength and Erdogan's stance on international relations. The conversation discusses the ongoing conflict in Ukraine and the motivations behind the fighting. It highlights the perspective of the people in the breakaway regions of Donetsk and Luhansk, who feel a strong connection to Russia and are fighting to protect their land. The conversation also criticizes the lack of coherence and leadership from President Biden, questioning his ability to lead the 'free world'. It touches on the topic of NATO's hawkish stance towards China and the potential consequences of a war with China. The effectiveness of drones in the Ukrainian conflict is also emphasized, with the suggestion that China is providing more support to Ukraine through drones than the US or NATO.

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