8-23-24: Ukraine Doubling Down On Kursk; What's Next For NATO & Russia?

The conversation discusses the ongoing conflict between Russia and Ukraine, with a focus on the recent incursion by Ukraine into Russian territory. It explores the involvement of NATO and the United States in supporting Ukraine, and the potential consequences of this escalation. The conversation also touches on the mood in Russia and the possibility of a major retaliation by Russia. It concludes with a discussion on the objectives of Ukraine, the role of the media in shaping the narrative, and the potential reactions of other European nations.

• The conflict between Russia and Ukraine has escalated with Ukraine's incursion into Russian territory, which has been supported by NATO and the United States.
• The involvement of NATO and the US makes them co-belligerents in the war, and their support has been crucial for Ukraine's ability to continue the conflict.
• The incursion into Russia is seen as a desperate move by Ukraine, as they are losing the war and their resources are dwindling rapidly.
• The media narrative plays a significant role in shaping public opinion, with Western media often supporting Ukraine's actions and downplaying their responsibility for the conflict.
• There is a division within NATO, with some countries, like Germany, questioning the continued support for Ukraine due to fiscal concerns and doubts about the effectiveness of the war effort.
• The conflict has the potential to escalate further, but there is hope that a dose of realism and a recognition of the futility of the war may lead to a diplomatic resolution.