In this episode of the Curious Equestrian podcast, Anna Louise Claydon warmly welcomes the esteemed horseman Bernd Hackl, known affectionately as Bernie. With over three decades of experience, Bernie shares his wisdom on the deep connection between horses and humans. He advocates for empathy, understanding, and a return to traditional, hands-on horsemanship. Bernie's philosophy is rooted in self-awareness and the pursuit of a genuine bond with our equine companions. Listeners are invited to reflect on their approach to horse training, inspired by Bernie's dedication to changing the equestrian world through kindness and mutual respect. Learn more about Bernd: berndhackl.de For more information about UK clinics with Bernie: https://www.facebook.com/BlackfordGlen/ howdy@blackfordglen.com Horsemanship Journal produces the Curious Equestrian Podcast. For more podcasts, articles and videos, visit horsemanship-journal.com Timestamps: 0:00 – Introduction 2:41 – The Journey into Horse Training 4:00 – Understanding the Horse's Perspective 8:29 – Challenges in Horse Training 13:19 – The Importance of Patience and Understanding 17:31 – The Significance of Inner Self in Horsemanship 19:58 – The Color of Energy 20:54 – Dealing with Difficult Horses 22:25 – Breeding and Behavior 28:09 – The Essence of Good Horse People 31:15 – Authenticity of Horses 31:54 – Approach to Horse Training 33:33 – Understanding Horse Psychology 34:59 – Extreme Trail Training 38:39 – Challenging Horse Abilities 39:11 – The Western Riding Route 40:46 – Learning from Horses 43:14 – Facing Tough Things Underneath the Surface 47:51 – The Future of Horse Training 50:37 – Purpose within the Equestrian Community