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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Can we ever trust an AI lawyer?

55 min28 juli 2025

This is CNBC journalist Jon Fortt. This is the last episode I’ll be guest-hosting for Nilay while he’s out on parental leave. My guest today is Richard Robinson, who is the cofounder and CEO of legal tech startup Robin AI. 

Richard is a corporate lawyer-turned-startup founder working on AI tools for the legal profession. But law and AI have not mixed well. So I wanted to ask Richard about hallucinations, how lawyers can use AI today, and what it will really take to place our trust in an AI lawyer.

Read the full transcript on The Verge.

Links: 

  • Legal tech startup Robin AI raises another $25 million | Fortune
  • Why do lawyers keep using ChatGPT? | Verge
  • Judge slams lawyers for ‘bogus AI-generated research’ | Verge
  • Lawyers using AI must heed ethics rules, ABA says in first formal guidance | Reuters
  • Lawyers fined for submitting bogus case law created by ChatGPT | AP
  • The ChatGPT lawyer explains himself | NYT

Credits:

Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Ursa Wright. 

The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder.

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