Brad turns the tables on his former MIT professor, David Mindell. David is a historian, deep-ocean robotics pioneer, founder of Humatics, and now an investor in industrial transformation through his firm Unless. They trace the thread from James Watt’s steam engine to robots two miles deep in the ocean to the warehouse floor: why the demo is never the hard part, why industrial transformation runs on “human time” and takes about 30 years, why the real automation problem is too few robots rather than too many, and why — from Thinking Machines to OpenAI — there’s no technology story that isn’t a human story.
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