
To Dye For: Making a Documentary About Synthetic Dyes
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What happens when two parents who have never made a film decide the world needs to see what changed their child's life?
Whitney and Brandon Cawood took synthetic food dyes out of their child's diet and watched the change with their own eyes. Whitney says it was so dramatic she would have struggled to believe it if another parent had told her the same story. She wanted to understand the science, so she asked the researchers herself, and Brandon, a commercial photographer and videographer, agreed to film it. The result is To Dye For: The Documentary, made by a husband-and-wife crew of two.
In Episode 232, Christian Taylor sits down with Whitney and Brandon Cawood, the first-time filmmakers behind To Dye For. Whitney is a former teacher and digital marketer who set up every interview and asked the questions on camera. Brandon is a former touring musician who was working as a third-shift security guard, doing photography on the side, when Whitney met him; his movie-poster-style photo series of first responders, Not All Wear Capes, went viral. He shot, edited and animated the film and composed its score.
They talk about choosing to put their own family on screen, borrowing a vlog style from the YouTube channel Yes Theory to make heavy science easy to watch, and casting friends and family for the reenactments. They explain how a dye-free Facebook group Whitney started grew to about 570,000 members in two years, and how its audience, almost all women aged 24 to 44, showed them exactly who the film was for. They also talk about faith, the strain of a two-person production on a young family, and why test screenings changed the film. Christian, who admits she came in skeptical, tells them, "I think this is an incredibly important film."
WATCH THE FILM
To Dye For: The Documentary is available to rent on Kinema: https://kinema.com/films/to-dye-for-the-documentary-ks9yoj
In this episode, you'll learn:
- How one family's experience with synthetic dyes became a documentary
- How a married couple split the work on a two-person crew
- How a viral photo series turned Brandon into a working photographer
- Why the Cawoods decided to put their own family in the film
- How a vlog style can make a science documentary easy to watch
- How Brandon made the animation and the score himself on a tight budget
- How a Facebook group of about 570,000 members became the film's audience
- How the Cawoods paid for the film with savings, crowdfunding and a grant
- Why test screenings made To Dye For a better film
- How Kinema and Splice help independent filmmakers
CHAPTERS
0:00 When Food Dye Changed Their Child's Life
5:48 Who Does What on a Two-Person Crew
11:17 From Security Guard to Photographer
16:45 Should You Be in Your Own Documentary?
22:36 A Vlog Style Inspired by Yes Theory
27:43 Reenactments, Animation and Music
31:14 Faith and Psalm 107
37:40 Building an Audience Before Release
43:20 Budget, Grants and Test Screenings
50:21 Kinema, Splice and Distribution Plans
55:30 Not So Pretty and Other Picks
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
What is To Dye For: The Documentary about?
To Dye For: The Documentary follows Whitney and Brandon Cawood after they removed synthetic food dyes from their child's diet and saw a dramatic change. The film mixes the family's own story, told in a vlog style, with interviews with dye researchers and with other families, and uses reenactments to bring those families' stories to the screen.
Who made To Dye For?
To Dye For was made by Whitney and Brandon Cawood, a married couple making their first documentary. Whitney set up the interviews, asked the questions and led the marketing. Brandon, a commercial photographer and videographer, shot, edited and animated the film and composed its score, building the music from loops in Splice.
How do you make a documentary with a two-person crew and a small budget?
The Cawoods did nearly every job themselves, including animation, music and casting. They say they put in about $20,000 of their own money, ran two crowdfunding campaigns and received a small local grant. They say the film would have cost about $250,000 on paper if they had paid for all the work they did themselves.
How can a documentary build an audience before it is released?
Whitney Cawood started a Facebook group about living dye-free that grew to about 570,000 members in two years, and offered free resources in exchange for email sign-ups, building a list of about 150,000. The group's data showed the audience was almost all women aged 24 to 44, which shaped how the Cawoods planned to market and screen the film.
DOCUVIEW DÉJÀ VU PICKS
Whitney's pick:
- Not So Pretty (2022), a docuseries about the beauty products women use every day: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13142526/
Brandon's picks:
- Backstreet Boys: Show 'Em What You're Made Of (2015): https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2712154/
- OUTATIME: Saving the DeLorean Time Machine (2016): https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4525694/
Christian's picks:
- Brandy Hellville & the Cult of Fast Fashion (2024): https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31189910/
- The Movies That Made Us (2019 to 2021): https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10681222/
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ABOUT THE GUESTS
Whitney Cawood
Co-director, To Dye For: The Documentary
Whitney Cawood has a degree in education and taught school before leaving teaching to start a family. She has run an e-commerce business with Brandon and worked as a freelance digital marketer.
Brandon Cawood
Co-director, To Dye For: The Documentary
Brandon Cawood is a commercial photographer and videographer who toured in a band in his 20s. His photo series Not All Wear Capes, movie-poster-style portraits of first responders, went viral and launched his photography business.
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RESOURCES MENTIONED
- Yes Theory on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@YesTheory
- How Two First-Time Filmmakers Built an Audience (Kinema interview with the Cawoods, May 2025): https://kinemahq.substack.com/p/how-two-first-time-filmmakers-built
- Kinema, the virtual screening platform the Cawoods discuss: https://kinema.com
- Splice, the music loop library Brandon used for the score: https://splice.com
- Psalm 107, the psalm Christian reads from
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