Don’t Eat Poop! A Food Safety Podcast
Tune in every Tuesday for a brand new episode of Don’t Eat Poop! A Food Safety Podcast. Join Francine L. Shaw, the savvy CEO of Savvy Food Safety, and Matthew Regusci, compliance connoisseur and founder of Fostering Compliance, as they serve up the latest in food safety with a side of laughter.
Explore the ins and outs of food systems, responsible food practices, and food safety regulations. Stay informed about food safety awareness and the not-so-occasional food recall. Delve deep into the complexities of the food supply chain with our dynamic duo, who blend expert insights with a pinch of food safety humor. Whether you’re knee-deep in the food safety industry or just passionate about what’s on your plate, this podcast promises a fresh take on staying safe while eating well.
Expect candid conversations, personal anecdotes, and occasional guest appearances that spice up the discussion. Shaw and Regusci bring their combined decades of experience to the table, making each episode as informative as it is entertaining. From industry trends to must-know food safety news and regulations, they’ve got your back (and your lunch).
In essence, Don’t Eat Poop! A Food Safety Podcast is not just about imparting information; it’s about fostering a culture of food safety. By shedding light on the intricacies of the food supply chain and the latest food safety news, it aims to promote awareness and encourage responsible food practices among consumers and industry professionals alike.
When it comes to food safety, knowledge is power, and a good laugh is the best seasoning. At the heart of every episode is one golden rule: Don’t Eat Poop!
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Hacked Menus & Hidden Allergens: A Food Safety Nightmare at Disney | Episode 121
When a fired Disney employee went full villain and hacked into the company's menu system, the consequences weren’t just petty - they were potentially deadly.
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine dive headfirst into the bizarre true story of a rogue ex-employee who changed prices, dropped profanities, and worst of all, tampered with allergen info on Disney’s restaurant menus.
From food defense to the overlooked cybersecurity risks in food service, this is one story where food safety, tech, and a little insanity collide.
In this episode:
💩 [05:19] A fired Disney employee hacks into Disney’s menus
💩 [09:12] From paternity leave to felony charges
💩 [11:44] How allergen tampering crosses a deadly line
💩 [14:21] Trying to understand the motives behind the menu hacking
💩 [16:41] Software security failures and food safety
💩 [21:24] Who should have access to menu allergens?
💩 [24:06] Understanding the severity of allergen tampering
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Find the past episode on hacking and food safety here: Some Growing Food Safety Threats That Most Don’t Think About But Can Gravely Affect Your Facility | Episode 116
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“ I don't think they would've thrown the book at him as much as they did until he started jacking with allergens because that's changing it from a bad prank [...] to manslaughter.” – Matt Regusci
“ I understand being angry, but the things that he did went beyond hurting the company. [...] Some of them could have killed people.” – Francine L Shaw
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Bioterrorism on the Menu: Agroterror Threats & Food Safety Fallout | Episode 120
Is your wheat toast a weapon waiting to happen?
In this eye-opening episode of the Don't Eat Poop!, our hosts Francine and Matt unpack a disturbing real-world threat: the smuggling of a biological weapon-grade fungus into the U.S. food system.
From fusarium head blight to potential global famine, they connect the dots between agroterrorism, supply chain vulnerabilities, and why food safety professionals need to think like defense strategists. It’s not paranoia, it’s preparedness.
In this episode:
💩 [04:38] Francine and Matt recap their global webinar on the future of food safety
💩 [05:11] Bioterrorism: Why internal threats are often more dangerous than external ones
💩 [06:55] The case of the Chinese doctoral students smuggling fusarium head blight (FHB) into U.S. labs
💩 [08:52] A breakdown of FHB’s economic and food security impact
💩 [13:37] Global catastrophe potential: How disrupting the Western Hemisphere’s grain supply could trigger a worldwide famine
💩 [17:25] Could bioterrorism reverse decades of food production efficiency?
💩 [22:55] What food producers and processors can (and can’t) do
💩 [31:50] Why training and trust alone won’t cut it
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Check out this past episode on food terrorism: Some Growing Food Safety Threats That Most Don’t Think About But Can Gravely Affect Your Facility | Episode 116
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“ I don't think we have to have a nuclear war in order to kill every human being in the United States. A bioterrorist war would do it,” – Matt Regusci
“ I truly believed that everybody just operated to the best of their ability and cared about what they served and how they served it. It was so eye-opening for me when I became an inspector and realized that that was not the case.” – Francine L Shaw
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A Side of Salmonella: What’s Up with Those Contaminated Cucumbers? | Episode 119
When your cucumbers keep ending up on outbreak lists, it’s time to ask: what the actual food safety fail is going on?
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine dig into the repeat salmonella outbreaks linked to Bedner Growers - and why the phrase “voluntary recall” should still raise your eyebrows.
They dissect how the contamination trail is traced, what might really be behind recurring farm-based outbreaks, and why cross-contamination is everyone’s problem. Whether you're running a farm, a food service kitchen, or just trying to avoid the “poop” in your produce, this one’s a wake-up call.
In this episode:
💩 [03:02] The shift from consumer ignorance to awareness of food safety
💩 [05:32] Bedner Growers: One salmonella outbreak is bad–two is a pattern
💩 [08:02] How tracebacks work
💩 [12:35] Epidemiology 101: What did you eat... a week ago?
💩 [17:16] Farming and food safety: Where does Salmonella come from?
💩 [20:59] Most farms don’t survive a salmonella outbreak
💩 [25:54] Ripple effects: How one farm’s mistake can tank a whole commodity
💩 [32:24] Lessons from Jack in the Box, Chipotle, and other infamous outbreaks
💩 [35:35] Food safety and insurance companies
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Check out the Food Safety News article our hosts are talking about, Bedner cucumbers are back, making people sick once again.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“ You can't taste [salmonella], you can't see it, you can't smell it. It's invisible to the naked eye, but not invisible to the human body system.” – Matt Regusci
“All foodborne illnesses are preventable. You get them from eating something that's contaminated. Are we ever going to eliminate all of them? No. But they're all preventable.” – Francine L Shaw
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Food Allergy Dangers & Labeling Fails in Food Safety | Episode 118
In this raw and eye-opening episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine tackle one of the deadliest (and most misunderstood) topics in the food industry: food allergies.
Prompted by a tragic case of a mislabeled cookie causing a grandmother’s death, they break down how simple labeling mistakes and casual attitudes toward allergens can have lethal consequences. From cross-contact catastrophes to faux allergy fibbers, this episode dives deep into the real-life implications of allergy mismanagement in both food service and retail.
Whether you're managing a restaurant kitchen, hosting kids at summer camp, or buying cookies at a supermarket, this one’s a must-listen for anyone serious about food safety compliance.
In this episode:
💩 [02:53] Mislabeling leads to a fatal peanut allergy reaction
💩 [05:00] Why labeling systems fail and how POS errors put lives at risk
💩 [05:59] Fake allergy claims and their dangerous consequences
💩 [08:38] The allergy vs. intolerance debate
💩 [13:41] When an NBC announcer had to leave the Kentucky Derby due to allergen exposure on live TV
💩 [15:54] Carrying your EpiPen with you everywhere you go
💩 [20:16] Brazilian nuts can be toxic in high quantities
💩 [23:15] The dangers of cross-contamination
💩 [26:08] Why even lettuce needs label clarity
💩 [29:47] Anaphylaxis as a special need
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Check out the Food Safety News article our hosts are talking about, Family sues Safeway after mislabeled cookie causes grandmother’s death.
Take a look at the last allergen episode, Diving Back Into Food Allergies: Important Data, Recent Deaths, and Hidden Dangers | Episode 58
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“ When people say that they're allergic, it desensitizes people to the real fact that people who are actually allergic to this are carrying an EpiPen and this could kill them from anaphylactic shock.” – Matt Regusci
“ There are a million reasons as to why people don't take [food allergies] as seriously as they should, but none of that negates how serious it is. People die.” – Francine L Shaw
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Cockroach Infestation Horror Stories and What They Reveal About Food Safety | Episode 117
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine dive into the dark, crunchy underbelly of food safety: cockroach infestations.
They kick things off with a recent incident at Erewhon’s luxury tonic bar in Santa Monica, temporarily shut down after cockroaches were discovered in a cabinet. But things quickly escalate when Francine shares one of the worst infestation cases of her career.
The hosts dig into the gaps in pest control protocols, how poor vendor oversight can keep infestations alive, and the often-overlooked realities of food safety enforcement.
In this episode:
💩 [04:07] The cockroach violation at Erewhon’s luxury tonic bar in Santa Monica
💩 [07:59] Francine’s craziest cockroach story
💩 [09:03] What happens when you spray a bad cockroach infestation
💩 [13:17] What it takes for the health department to reopen a restaurant
💩 [16:34] The psychological effect of inspecting a bad cockroach infestation
💩 [18:44] Taking food safety seriously
💩 [20:35] A fill factor
💩 [21:59] What they found at Erewhon’s luxury tonic bar in Santa Monica
💩 [23:05] Where there’s one cockroach, there are thousands
💩 [24:49] Consumer reaction to the Erewhon cockroach violation
💩 [27:20] The need for weekly pest control
💩 [28:44] The expectations of Erewhon’s luxury tonic bar customers
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Check out the Food Safety News article our hosts are talking about, Cockroach violation shuts down Erewhon’s luxury tonic bar in Santa Monica.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“If you're paying 20 bucks for a smoothie or a tonic, you probably don't want cockroaches as the added ingredient.” – Matt Regusci
“[Cockroaches] were inside the milkshake machine. They were everywhere. [...] This does not happen overnight. It took a while for it to get this bad.” – Francine L Shaw
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Some Growing Food Safety Threats That Most Don't Think About But Can Gravely Affect Your Facility | Episode 116
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are talking about some growing threats to food safety: cyber attacks, food terrorism, and food fraud.
For some time, these were associated with external threats, as was the case with JBS's Russian ransomware attack, which stopped 30% of the American meat supply back in 2021, and the lead-laced-cinnamon fraud that came from Ecuador and led to the Cinnamon Applesauce Pouches Lead and Chromium Poisoning Outbreak.
But today, our hosts are bringing you a very serious case of a cyber attack by someone on the inside, with dangerous consequences for both consumers and workers at a poultry processing facility.
So, stay tuned to know all about these growing threats and how to protect your facility from them.
In this episode:
💩 [04:05] What makes our hosts successful in the food compliance world
💩 [05:23] The food industry must prepare for food terrorism and fraud
💩 [07:17] The South Carolina chicken plant sabotage case
💩 [08:26] The bad side of the current level of automation in meat-packing plants
💩 [10:05] What the saboteur accomplished and the questions that elicited
💩 [12:08] A disgruntled insider’s access and the importance of changing codes
💩 [16:07] Having no past criminal records doesn't mean much
💩 [17:32] Chemical risks in poultry processing
💩 [20:41] Cybersecurity: A growing threat to food safety
💩 [23:55] Listen to your IT people, they're trying to protect you from this
💩 [26:25] The points in the system where food can be tampered with
💩 [29:50] The need for good food defense plans
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Catch up with our decaf coffee episode, What They Don’t Tell You About Decaf Coffee That You Should Absolutely Know | Episode 111.
In case you're curious, these are the Alani Nu Energy Drinks marketed to women.
Check out the Food Safety News article our hosts are talking about, South Carolina chicken plant sabotage case exposes food safety gap.
Watch Matt and Francine's global webinar for NEMIS, Ensuring Food Safety Worldwide: Tackling Challenges and Paving the Way for a Safer Future.
Catch up with our funny take on Dr. Darin's article, When Dead Chickens Fly: The Current Issue With American Chicken Processing Plants | Episode 110.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“This case exposes a blind spot in food safety: the vulnerability of digitized processing systems to insider attacks. While efficient, these systems are susceptible to sabotage, especially by former employees with lingering access.” – Matt Regusci
“ Companies need to start watching out for this type of behavior [food terrorism] because it's going to happen. It's just a matter of time till this type of behavior starts to happen. It's on the forefront and it's not just [in] manufacturing and processing [but in] restaurants as well.” – Francine L Shaw
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Gloves: Risks and Solutions for the Most Overlooked Zone 1 Food Safety Item with Steve Ardagh, CEO & Founder of Eagle Protect | Episode 115
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are joined by Steve Ardagh, the CEO and Founder of Eagle Protect, now as our official sponsor. He’s also known as the “Glove Guy” and is on a mission to save the world one glove at a time.
He’s been on the podcast before, and we’ve also talked about his research and glove safety on other occasions. Even so, we guarantee you’ll learn something new today, as our hosts always do when talking to him.
They touch on topics such as the glove safety gap in the US, the fact that contaminated gloves might result in false positive lab results, the idea that better quality gloves actually reduce glove cost, the impact of tariffs on glove quality, why vinyl gloves should be banned, and more.
In this episode:
💩 [01:14] Officially meet Steve Ardagh, the “Glove Guy”, as our new sponsor
💩 [03:17] The biggest challenge behind glove safety
💩 [04:01] When Matt and Francine learned that gloves may already come in dirty
💩 [05:03] Being FDA Food Compliant doesn’t guarantee the glove is safe
💩 [07:11] The glove safety gap and Eagle Protect’s role in closing it
💩 [08:28] The harmful chemicals that can even be in FDA food-compliant gloves
💩 [09:50] Bringing awareness to the problem, but also providing the solution
💩 [12:07] Any risk is too much of a risk when it comes to our safety
💩 [14:34] The terrible consequences for the most vulnerable and their loved ones
💩 [17:08] The idea that maybe the gloves are the actual culprit
💩 [19:39] Why vinyl gloves should be banned from food handling
💩 [22:28] How tariffs can impact the vinyl glove supply and a better option
💩 [24:29] The progress in the industry around gloves
💩 [25:36] Stop cutting corners: better quality gloves actually reduce glove cost
💩 [30:03] Beware the ways glove factories save money, especially as tariffs rise
💩 [31:58] How Eagle Protect guarantees their gloves are safe and high quality
💩 [34:55] Make sure your gloves help rather than compromise your safety
💩 [36:13] Good gloves don’t rip
💩 [38:05] 16% of food outbreaks implicate gloves as the cause
💩 [40:36] Stories of concerning yet common glove misuse
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Catch up on our previous episodes about Glove Safety:
- Episode 56 | The Truth About Single-Use Gloves: Are They Actually Helping?
- Episode 57 | The Glove Food Safety Gap: Raising Disposable Glove Standards with Steve Ardagh, CEO and Founder of Eagle Protect
- Episode 81 | Global Glove Safety Day and Other Big Food Safety Issues with “Food Safety Icon” Dr. Darin Detwiler
Access the Journal of Food Protection Paper Steve mentions.
Check out Eagle Protect’s Clean Gloves Project: White Paper & Glove Testing.
The new glove safety solution that Eagle Protect unveiled at the Food Safety Summit 2025.
Eagle Protect’s Case Study on How Better Quality Gloves Reduce Glove Cost. For more of their Case Studies, go here.
Articles and Papers on Phthalates and Vinyl Gloves:
- Eagle Protect’s Article: Are Vinyl Gloves - Protection or Poison?
- The Coalition for Safer Food Processing & Packaging’s Report: Time To Take Off The Toxic Gloves.
- Ansell Care’s Position Paper: Vinyl Gloves: Facts You Should Know.
The paper that showed that 16% of Foodborne Outbreaks Implicate Glove Cross-Contamination.
Noteworthy quote from this episode
“ Gloves [in the US] aren't required to be clean or intact, so you could have a glove come in with a dead mouse in it and holes all through it, and as long as it passes that FDA food compliance, there's nothing illegal being done.” – Steve Ardagh
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All Food Recalls Are Not the Same, But Here’s How You Can Be Ready For When One Comes with Roger Hancock, CEO of Recall InfoLink | Episode 114
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are welcoming Roger Hancock, the CEO of Recall InfoLink, back to the podcast straight from the Food Safety Consortium once again to talk about... you guessed it: Food Recalls!
Prepare to dive even deeper into food recalls this time around with lots of multilevel questions followed by fascinating answers.
They’ll provide valuable insights into how and why Europe deals with recalls openly versus the wary way the U.S. deals with them. You’ll learn about the different types of recalls out there and how to create a Recall Ready Community so your supply chain is ready to get the affected product out of circulation quickly and smoothly.
In this episode:
💩 [00:58] Meet (or get reacquainted with) Roger Hancock
💩 [03:35] Repetition is crucial to ensure that food safety best practices are followed
💩 [07:23] Setting the standard and practicing what you preach is key
💩 [11:15] The connection between ingredient and end product recalls
💩 [12:31] How Europe approaches food recalls versus how the U.S. does
💩 [16:53] Understand the different recall classifications
💩 [21:46] The drivers for recalls and why Europe has more recalls than the U.S.
💩 [26:49] How to create a Recall Ready Community within your supply chain
💩 [30:13] Those who belong in your Recall Ready Community and the Alliance
💩 [32:38] FSMA 204 and the impact of traceability in recalls
💩 [36:04] What’s better about the Food Safety Consortium 2024
💩 [39:10] The disconnect between brand image and food safety practices
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Catch up with our interview with Roger Hancock on Episode 42 | What Does A Fast And Efficient Food Recall Look Like? With Roger Hancock, CEO of Recall InfoLink.
Visit recallinfolink.com.
Learn more about The Alliance for Recall Ready Communities.
Check out Betsy Craig’s post.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“ The connected companies across the supply chain often drop the ball between the connections, and so we think that there's a way to get some glue together using standard processes and data to pass information quickly and efficiently and seamlessly for the good of the consumer.” – Roger Hancock
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Always Learn Something New About Food Safety with Tina Brillinger from GFSR | Episode 113
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are joined by Tina Brillinger, the president and CEO of Global Food Safety Resource (GFSR), straight from the Food Safety Consortium 2024.
You’ll learn more about the world-leading food safety resource for helping food professionals with food safety compliance, as well as its podcast.
Tina also shares her unique perspective as a Canadian working in food safety globally, and information about a serious foodborne illness that she only recently discovered, after 15 years in the field.
In this episode:
💩 [01:12] Meet Tina Brillinger and the Global Food Safety Resource
💩 [03:09] The Eye on Food Safety Podcast
💩 [04:12] Getting more women to work and be visible in the food safety industry
💩 [07:11] What you’ll find inside GFSR
💩 [09:05] How GFSR’s resources have directly impacted people around the world
💩 [10:56] The demand for food safety culture training and information
💩 [11:49] What you can expect from GFSR’s articles and their podcast in 2025
💩 [13:22] The far-reaching impact of the Calgary daycare outbreak
💩 [15:45] Find what you need to know about pathogens, like Listeria and H. pylori
💩 [19:00] We need to educate more instead of just training
💩 [21:21] Why the Food Safety Consortium continues to be a favorite of Tina’s
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Access all of GFSR’s valuable content at globalfoodsafetyresource.com.
Listen to the Eye on Food Safety Podcast here or on LinkedIn.
Catch up with previous Don’t Eat Poop! episodes with Dr. Darin Detwiler, starting with Episode 81, where you’ll find the links to the other ones as well.
Learn more about the outbreak in the daycare in Canada from our episodes about it, Unidentified Food Floating in Chemical Buckets | Episode 32, and The Calgary Daycare Outbreak: Revisited | Episode 33
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“ There isn't any topic that is off limits as far as [GFSR is] concerned because food safety really touches on all corners of the industry. So, right from warehousing to logistics and recalls, the whole gamut. So, we don't focus on quality at all, we focus strictly on food safety.” – Tina Brillinger
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The Administration for Healthy America (AHA): Understand What It Is and How It’ll Affect U.S. Food Safety | Episode 112
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are discussing a true alphabet soup of changes in the U.S. Health Agencies.
In late March 2025, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the current U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS), announced the Transformation to Make America Healthy Again. This will entail a great restructuring and consolidation of the existing Health Agencies.
Tune in to understand what the government (says it) means to do and Matt and Francine’s great insights on how this will unfold and, ultimately, affect Food Safety in the U.S.
In this episode:
💩 [01:43] Things Matt and Francine had in common growing up
💩 [05:22] Parenting tips from someone with A LOT of kiddos
💩 [10:52] Working in food safety and compliance is just like having children
💩 [14:09] Consolidating everything into the Administration for Healthy America
💩 [16:57] HHS’s fact sheet on the changes that will take place
💩 [24:11] Our hosts’ first impressions of the proposed changes
💩 [28:16] Immediate concerns regarding food safety
💩 [30:30] How food safety regulations came to be in the U.S.
💩 [32:23] The much-needed upcoming paradigm shift in the U.S. food industry
💩 [36:34] Will personal opinions alter science, or will science and facts prevail?
💩 [40:49] The importance of seeking information from various sources
💩 [42:01] Cautiously optimistic about the upcoming changes, but we’ll see
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Watch Secretary Kennedy’s AHA announcement on X.
Check out the Fact Sheet: HHS’ Transformation to Make America Healthy Again.
Catch up with Episode 108 | How Changes in U.S. Food Agencies Are Putting Food Safety in America at Risk.
Catch up with Episode 85 | The Road to Food Safety with Deborah Blum.
Catch up with Episode 82 | Household Foods in The US That Are Banned in Other Countries.
Visit Ground News.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“ Good or bad, [Make America Healthy Again] is going to be a fundamental paradigm shift in the food industry, and I think it'll be viewed [as] good for some people [and] it'll be viewed [as] bad by other people.” – Matt Regusci
“ My only concern with any of it is, [RFK Jr.] seems to have a lot of his own personal opinions about a lot of things, and... I wouldn't be me if I didn't address this. I wonder how much his own personal opinions about food or any other of the health-related topics that are going to fall under this are going to affect him looking at the science of those things.” – Francine L Shaw
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What They Don’t Tell You About Decaf Coffee That You Should Absolutely Know | Episode 111
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are talking about the ongoing Class II recall of Our Family’s Traverse City Cherry-Flavored Decaf Light Roast Ground Coffee from the parent company Massimo Zanetti Beverage USA due to mislabeling.
They use this opportunity to share some little-known truths about decaf coffee that consumers should be aware of, such as the actual caffeine content of decaf coffee, and the fact that they might be ingesting harmful chemicals when going for decaf coffee.
In this episode:
💩 [02:00] The current mislabelled decaf coffee recall
💩 [03:32] The caffeine content of decaf coffee (no, it’s not 0%)
💩 [04:09] Drinking decaf versus regular coffee
💩 [05:03] Matt’s and Francine’s daily caffeine intake
💩 [07:34] Matt’s and Francine’s different opinions on black coffee
💩 [09:38] When drinking a caffeinated decaf coffee can be harmful
💩 [11:32] Debatable coffee flavors
💩 [12:48] Decaffeination processes, including a very unsafe one
💩 [14:47] The danger of Methylene Chloride
💩 [16:02] The use of dangerous chemicals in house flipping (and food?)
💩 [20:00] Small doses of harmful chemicals add up over time
💩 [23:21] Details on the recalled product, so you can send it back if you have it
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
If you’re curious about the movie Sausage Party, you can watch it here, but again, we don’t recommend it.
Catch up with the episode we thought would lose us a lot of listeners, but actually didn’t, Episode 108 | How Changes in U.S. Food Agencies Are Putting Food Safety in America at Risk.
Learn everything about Clean Label Project’s findings on the dangerous chemicals present in decaf coffee here.
Catch up on our interview with Deborah Blum, Episode 85 | The Road to Food Safety with Deborah Blum, Award-Winning Author of “The Poison Squad”.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“Methylene chloride is an active ingredient in paint thinner that was recently banned by the FDA. So, you could not use this product to scrape paint off of your walls. It's too dangerous for that, but to throw into some coffee beans to get rid of caffeine? No problem. That sounds like a good application for this thing.” – Matt Regusci
“Somebody said to me the other day, ‘I just drink black [coffee].’ Okay, well, you stick to your black. You don't want anything interesting or different in your life. That's wonderful. Don't go out on a limb and have any risk because you might like something different.” – Francine L Shaw
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When Dead Chickens Fly: The Current Issue With American Chicken Processing Plants | Episode 110
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are discussing a new development in the poultry industry: a waiver made during the pandemic that allowed poultry plants to increase their speeds from 140 to 175 birds per minute has now been made permanent.
This change raises numerous concerns around how to guarantee that the meat being processed is safe for consumers and that the plant is a safe space for workers. They go over the current flaws in the industry, some solutions to make processes more efficient, and the end product safer for Americans.
In this episode:
💩 [03:19] Speedy butchery: when dead chickens fly
💩 [04:58] The realities of meat packing plants versus at-home butchering
💩 [09:03] How meat inspections fall short in these plants
💩 [10:38] When it went from bad to worse
💩 [11:29] Meat safety is, apparently, still in the hands of the wife
💩 [12:03] The hazard behind the new 175 birds per minute speed
💩 [13:22] USDA inspectors don’t guarantee meat safety at any speed
💩 [14:50] Some sobering foodborne illness stats connected to poultry
💩 [15:20] What will actually decrease Salmonella in American chickens
💩 [17:14] How higher speeds will affect workers’ safety
💩 [18:55] Industry consolidation and its consequences for mom-and-pops
💩 [23:53] Ways to actually make the meat inspection process effective
💩 [25:07] When chickens still have feathers after being processed
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Read Dr. Darin Detwiler’s opinion piece in Food Safety News, Unsafe at any speed — again: The meat industry’s looming crisis.
Watch the Grammy Award-Winning Food Safety Documentary, Poisoned: The Dirty Truth About Your Food, where you’ll see some dead chickens flying.
Check out an “I Love Lucy” clip that shows the scene Matt and Francine are talking about, but colorized.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“ The population is going to continue to increase. We're an exporter of food. We need somehow to allow us to create more plants effectively and efficiently by using new technology that does not revolve around hiring a USDA inspector to sit down there and watch 175 birds a minute fly past their face.” – Matt Regusci
“ 1.3 million people get sick from Salmonella every year, some 420 die, and nearly a quarter of those cases come from poultry. Another 1.5 million people suffer from campylobacter infections, which is traced back to contaminated poultry.” – Francine L Shaw
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It’s Been Punted Yet Again. Companies Get 30 Extra Months to Comply with FSMA 204 | Episode 109
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are talking about some very frustrating but (unfortunately) not surprising news: the FSMA 204 implementation process has been pushed off yet again and the food industry now has 30 additional months to become fully compliant.
Tune in to discover what FSMA 204 is all about, why it matters so much that this gets accomplished, and the causes and consequences of this delay.
In this episode:
💩 [01:17] The big news: FSMA 204 compliance gets pushed off yet again
💩 [04:19] Why this traceability rule matters
💩 [04:59] How this rule will improve the way the FDA handles outbreaks
💩 [08:12] Why the industry is so resistant to adopting FSMA 204
💩 [08:39] 14 years in and neither the industry nor the FDA has implemented it yet
💩 [10:35] The dire and little-known consequences of this continued delay
💩 [13:57] Corporate culture and the role of industry associations in this fight
💩 [15:26] Complicated and expensive, but worth it to everyone
💩 [16:33] Will this new rule ever be implemented?
💩 [18:35] How the bureaucracy around food safety is getting in the way
💩 [21:31] Consumer awareness around the quality and safety of our food
💩 [25:19] Food should not only be safe, it should also be healthy
💩 [27:10] How hard it is to eat healthily in the U.S.
💩 [29:41] Some predictions about where U.S. food safety is headed
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Catch up with our interview with Andy Kennedy on Episode 97 | Insider Knowledge on the FDA's Traceability Rule FSMA 204 and Its Implementation with Andrew Kennedy from iFoodDS.
Catch up with our interview with Roger Hancock on Episode 42 | What Does A Fast And Efficient Food Recall Look Like? With Roger Hancock, CEO of Recall InfoLink.
Check out the FDA’s Generally Recognized as Safe (GRAS) List, Francine mentions.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“ I don't think people really truly understand how important one hour is in an outbreak, in a recall situation, every minute that product is on the shelf is a minute that somebody is purchasing it or consuming it in a restaurant, and is just another potential person that will get sick and potentially die.” – Matt Regusci
“ We could do this, but they don't want to. They choose. They choose not to. It's a choice, and they choose not to. The FDA has chosen not to deal with this for the last 14 years. The bottom line is they choose not to, over public health and food safety. Because it is a choice and they're choosing not to deal with it.” – Francine L Shaw
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How Changes in U.S. Food Agencies Are Putting Food Safety in America at Risk | Episode 108
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are talking about a very important but also potentially controversial topic: how the significant changes that are happening with this new administration in the USDA, CDC, FDA, and other U.S. agencies that oversee food will impact food safety and the lives of American citizens.
Tune in for this much-needed discussion.
They bring the information they’ve gathered from talking to a lot of people in these different agencies and focus on the actual policy implications, opportunities, and issues rather than simply the politics behind it all. They also share what they believe should be done to make the U.S. food safety system function appropriately.
In this episode:
💩 [01:38] Preface to the episode, which touches upon current politics
💩 [09:16] Can the government solve these problems?
💩 [10:30] Bureaucracy is getting in the way
💩 [13:11] The consequences of the current government incentives
💩 [14:28] From constantly replacing everybody to not being able to let them go
💩 [17:36] The article on Jim Jones’ resignation that Francine participated in
💩 [19:35] The confusing way food is overseen in the U.S. and some solutions
💩 [25:52] What was wrong with the FDA Reorganization Plan
💩 [26:57] What Francine and Matt would do to improve the food safety system
💩 [41:47] Matt and Francine’s views on what the future will bring
💩 [45:27] The impact of lobbyists and the origin of the term
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Read the article Francine mentions with her and other food safety leaders’ opinions on Jim Jones’ leaving the FDA, QA Exclusive: Food Safety Leaders React to Jim Jones’ Departure, FDA Layoffs.
Catch up with the episode where Matt and Francine discuss the FDA reorg, Episode 69 | A Look at the FDA’s Reorganization Plan and Some Food Safety Mythbusting.
Check out Part I and Part II of Francine’s episode on Hal King’s Food Safety Unwrapped podcast.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“ Our whole entire career, you and I have worked very, very hard, ruffled very, very many feathers, took in a lot of stones, pissed off a lot of people because we really believe in the mission. I think there are some people in the government that really do believe in their mission. I don't think they're the majority.” – Matt Regusci
“ 3000 people die every year from eating food. We know people whose children have gotten sick and had lifelong ramifications, people whose children have died, and it's not a game.” – Francine L Shaw
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The Food Safety Risks of At-home Freeze Drying and How to Mitigate Them | Episode 107
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are alone again for a change. Matt brought up a very important topic for discussion: at-home freeze drying, something that’s quickly growing in popularity.
Matt confessed that he has some ulterior motives behind his topic choice. He wants a freeze dryer in his home, but he’s still trying to convince his wife that this is a wise choice.
Tune in to learn all about freeze drying food at home, including what exactly freeze drying is, how the process works, and how to make sure you’re doing it correctly, so you’re able to have products with a shelf life of 25 years and, most importantly, not die.
In this episode:
💩 [02:51] Having an at-home freeze dryer
💩 [04:14] The science behind freeze drying
💩 [07:11] The importance of packaging swiftly and correctly
💩 [09:48] Matt’s dilemma: an at-home freeze dryer or a pig?
💩 [11:45] The investment and training needed to have this sizable appliance
💩 [15:44] How the cottage food industry is embracing freeze dried products
💩 [17:10] The particulars of getting and installing an at-home freeze dryer
💩 [21:29] Some of the things that can go wrong and how to handle them
💩 [25:39] The safest and the riskiest foods to freeze dry
💩 [28:33] Best practices for safe at-home freeze drying
💩 [33:04] A new way to reach your daily veggie intake goals
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Check out the Food Safety News article Matt mentions, At-home freeze drying: A growing trend with food safety concerns.
Catch up with the episode where they talk about a guy who sold Walmart pizzas that he microwaved in his own oven on DoorDash Episode 14 | Certification Fraud in The Food Safety Industry.
If you want to learn how to calibrate a thermometer, listen to Episode 92 | A Recap of 2024’s Major Outbreaks with Bill Marler.
Interested in freeze drying your food at home? Check out Harvest Right’s Home Freeze Dryers.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“ I know that this is going to last 25 years because that's what it said on the package. That is correct. If done correctly, if not, it's a ticking time bomb of food compliance issues.” – Matt Regusci
“[Freeze drying is] going to take all the moisture out of the food. So, if there's no moisture, it's going to be safe because you need the moisture for the bacteria to grow.” – Francine L Shaw
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Food Safety Voices: Communicating Effectively in Challenging Times (LinkedIn Live) | Episode 106
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are sharing with you the food safety star-studded “Food Safety Voices: Communicating Effectively in Challenging Times” LinkedIn Live with guests: Bryan Armentrout, Dr. Darin Detwiler, Jill Stuber, and Tia Glave.
These are six of the most recognized voices in food safety and they came together to discuss how to effectively communicate critical food safety messages in difficult situations both in public and professional arenas.
From media interviews to industry panels, from crisis responses to everyday advocacy, everyone shared personal experiences, communication frameworks, practical takeaways, and strategies for engaging positively and effectively with the public, industry, and regulators.
In this episode:
💩 [01:06] Meet our 6 leading food safety professionals
💩 [04:22] Francine: tips to work well with the media and avoid mishaps
💩 [12:46] Matt: the power of stories for effective food safety communication
💩 [20:16] Bryan: learning the skills to communicate well in any situation
💩 [25:27] Tips for getting over your nerves and speaking to a large group
💩 [30:18] Tia: understanding your audience’s WHY and building relationships
💩 [40:47] How to engage with people who minimize food safety issues
💩 [44:00] Jill: the need to develop your emotional intelligence (EQ)
💩 [50:19] The elements and balance of an effective message
💩 [51:13] The importance of getting the leadership involved
💩 [54:58] Leadership lessons, humor, and how to create culture
💩 [59:33] Last round of advice and takeaways
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Watch the LinkedIn live in full here.
Learn more about Bryan Armentrout’s The Food Leadership Group, tune into his podcast Food Safety Chat - Live!, and get a copy of his book The New Manager Mindset.
Catch up with previous episodes with Dr. Darin Detwiler, starting with Episode 81, where you’ll find the links to the other ones as well. Make sure to check his book Food Safety: Past, Present, and Predictions as well.
Learn more about Tia Glave and Jill Stuber’s Catalyst Food Leaders, and tune into Real Talk with Jill & Tia, their LinkedIn Live series. Also, see Tia’s Black Professionals in Food Safety and Quality.
Don’t forget to save your seat for Catalyst’s virtual Leadership Summit for People in Food on Wednesday, April 2nd.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“That false belief that all I have to do is point to a piece of paper and then say, you have to do this, that people are going to do it, right? That's completely false.” – Bryan Armentrout
“We need to use these stories. We need to engage with these people to remind them that these weren't just leadership lessons. These were life lessons and that these are not just job responsibilities. These are responsibilities that impact lives.” – Dr. Darin Detwiler
“No matter who your audience is, you still have to create awareness around what will resonate with them.” – Jill Stuber
“ Get the leadership skills you need in order to communicate effectively with people. So you can build those relationships, create safe spaces and trust, so you can understand their values, their beliefs, and their assumptions around what we do.” – Tia Glave
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Unbelievable Stories From Health Inspections Gone Wrong with Kim Carlton, from the Minnesota Department of Agriculture | Episode 105
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are joined by Kim Carlton, the Retail Food Program Manager at the Minnesota Department of Agriculture, straight from the 2024 FDA Retail Food Seminar & IEHA Annual Education Conference.
As you probably know by now, with federalism in the US, the federal government, the states, the counties, and the municipalities all have their own way of doing things when it comes to food safety. Today, Kim explains how the state of Minnesota keeps their citizens safe from foodborne illnesses.
She also shares some of her best and most unbelievable stories from the time she was an environmental health inspector.
In this episode:
💩 [01:45] How the Retail Food Safety Program in Minnesota works
💩 [06:34] How Minnesota manages the data from health inspections
💩 [07:18] Kim’s role in the National Environmental Health Association
💩 [08:49] Kim’s perception of environmental health throughout her career
💩 [11:04] Challenges Kim faced as an inspector
💩 [12:30] The pizza incident
💩 [13:27] We've come a long way as women in food safety, but not far enough
💩 [15:06] The celebrity chef’s very public tantrum
💩 [17:48] The cockroach mayhem
💩 [21:08] Is there anything you would do differently?
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Catch up with the conversation Matt and Francine had with Doug Farquhar in Episode 87 | The Impacts of American Federalism on US Food Safety with Doug Farquhar.
Discover more unbelievable stories like these in Francine’s book Who Watches the Kitchen? where she shares her own experiences out in the field as a health inspector.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“Depending on where you are in the state of Minnesota and what type of retail food you sell, it could be one of 30 different agencies that regulate you.” – Kim Carlton
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Navigating FDA Compliance and Recent Tariff and Regulation Changes with David Lennarz, President of Registrar Corp | Episode 104
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are joined by David Lennarz, the President of Registrar Corp, a company that helps their clients to become and continue to be compliant with U.S. FDA Regulations.
According to Matt, David is one of the most important, least-known people in the American food and beverage, cosmetic, medical device, and drug industries, and today, he is sharing his expertise from 22 working in the field with us.
You’ll learn about FDA Compliance nationally and internationally, what to watch out for, David’s take on the significant changes happening within the FDA and with the new administration, and more.
In this episode:
💩 [01:34] The many ways Registrar Corp helps clients with FDA Compliance
💩 [11:00] How ComplyHub can change the game for the supply chains
💩 [15:27] The impact of FSMA on importers and retailers
💩 [17:06] Supply chain issues and weaknesses and a possible solution
💩 [20:04] Food and customs fraud and the impact of higher tariffs
💩 [27:08] How recent FDA changes will affect the industry
💩 [29:11] The Wild West of dietary supplements
💩 [35:18] Some predictions on where FSMA 204 will go
💩 [37:17] The impacts of tariffs and regulations on food prices
💩 [44:10] The biggest change that’s happened and the biggest one that should
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Learn more about the 100% online compliance training Registrar Corp offers here.
Catch up with Episode 51 | Stanley Cups vs. Cinnamon Applesauce: Which Is More Likely To Give You Lead Poisoning? to learn more about the WanaBana Cinnamon Applesauce Pouches Lead and Chromium Poisoning Outbreak.
Catch up with Episode 97 | Insider Knowledge on the FDA's Traceability Rule FSMA 204 and Its Implementation with Andrew Kennedy from iFoodDS for more information on FSMA 204 and Matt’s former business partner.
Listen to Episode 62 | Food Safety Gets the Short End of the Stick (Again) for our take on the FDA’s 37-million-dollar cut on funds for state food inspection programs.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“ We're never going to stop importing products. You'd see about half of the products on a store shelf because even though a base product that you think could be made here, the problem is there are ingredients to make that product. But it's made with five different ingredients coming from three different countries.” – David Lennarz
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A Closer Look at the Food and Beverage Industry Through Market Intelligence with Food and Beverage Editor Nevin Barich | Episode 103
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are joined by Nevin Barich, the food and beverage guru of Industry Intelligence Inc.
With 15+ years working as a curator and editor of all information and content out there about the food and beverage industry that his company can gather, Nevin shares a little bit of how this type of market intelligence works, how companies benefit from it, and the trends that have been emerging during his time in the role.
Prepare to see a side of the industry we don’t often see or talk about: the data that’s behind it all.
In this episode:
💩 [01:05] Meet Nevin Barich and learn what his company does for their clients
💩 [04:01] How it all works in practice
💩 [05:47] What business intelligence and Bruce Almighty have in common
💩 [07:51] Nevin’s role within the food and beverage space
💩 [09:14] The importance of the human element in a world of automation and AI
💩 [10:49] What type of food safety data companies are actually looking for
💩 [12:09] The Legislation Monitor, how it works, and its benefits over others
💩 [16:23] How Nevin’s company tracks outbreaks for their clients
💩 [16:44] How we met and what the latest McDonald’s outbreak meant to Nevin
💩 [19:26] The impact of Don’t Eat Poop! and others in the industry on listeners
💩 [21:41] L.A. versus Los Angeles and Nevin’s 17 years in the same company
💩 [24:03] The January 2025 L.A. wildfires
💩 [25:16] The biggest change within food and beverage over the last 17 years
💩 [27:13] Why the McDonald’s E. coli outbreak was so shocking and its lessons
💩 [30:10] The growing interest in regulatory changes in food safety
💩 [32:43] Stay tuned for a future LinkedIn Live with Nevin
💩 [34:38] Paying someone who is creating content about you
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Learn more about Nevin’s company’s services, including the new Legislation Monitor they have at industryintel.com
Listen to Francine’s interview on Food Safety Unwrapped Hal King’s podcast, From Kitchen to Compliance: A Dual Perspective on Food Safety. You can find Part I here and Part II here.
Catch up with some of our most impactful episodes yet:
- Episode 93 | Letter from a Widow of Boar’s Head Listeria Liverwurst
- Episode 88 | McDonald’s, Here We Go Again: Deadly E. Coli Outbreak Linked to McDonald’s
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Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“From where I sit, I think it's a matter of really being cautious [about AI] because it's very easy to just say, ‘Oh, the AI will just do everything for us.’ Maybe one day it will, but in the meantime, there's a lot of tweaks and fixes that need to be made again, like any other technology that's ever come up.” – Nevin Barich
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The Foundation of Food Safety and How to Become a Better Food Safety Professional and Leader with Elena Montoya | Episode 102
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are joined by Food Safety Sanitation Professional Elena Montoya.
She has been one of the podcast’s most loyal listeners, and if you look through Francine’s, Matt’s, and the Don’t Eat Poop!’s posts on LinkedIn, you will certainly find one of her comments, which are always very thoughtful and bring something new to the table.
So, it’s only natural that someone as passionate about food safety and helping others become the best food safety professionals and leaders they can be as our hosts should be one of our first guests in 2025.
Get ready for some great laughs (usually Matt’s fault), Elena’s inspiring story in food safety, and ways you can become part of our welcoming and enriching Food Safety Community on LinkedIn.
In this episode:
💩 [01:12] Meet Elena and her work as a food safety sanitation professional
💩 [04:49] The sanitation staff for a manufacturing facility versus a warehouse
💩 [07:35] How to address the pain point of staffing your sanitation department
💩 [09:21] What makes chemicals pre-approved
💩 [10:56] How Francine got Savvy Food Safety, Inc. off the ground
💩 [12:34] Matt brings the food safety humor
💩 [14:12] Why Elena chose to work in the field of sanitation
💩 [20:21] The challenge of engaging people of all education levels
💩 [21:22] The one ability that will make you truly effective in your food safety job
💩 [24:25] Reviewing food safety books on LinkedIn
💩 [32:00] What Elena wants the next decade or two to look like for her career
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Join the Don’t Eat Poop team on Wed, Feb 26, at Noon EST for a special podcast event featuring food safety experts—Dr. Darin Detwiler, Matt Regusci, Bryan Armentrout, Tia Glave, Jill Stuber, and Francine L. Shaw! Attend the event here.
Follow Elena on LinkedIn to participate in the latest Book Giveaway and discover the next best read that will help you grow professionally.
To learn more about Tia Glave and Jill Stuber, catch up with Episode 36 | How to Create a Functional Food Safety Culture within Your Organization with Tia Glave and Jill Stuber from Catalyst.
Join Tia and Jill’s Catalyst Community Book Club here.
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Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“You're never going to succeed at anything if you don't give it your 100%. So, in my free time, I'm reading books, I'm posting book reviews, I'm studying for certifications and honestly, I don't have a life. I eat, breathe, sleep, repeat food safety, and that's why I'm committed to helping others and want to give back and protect people in the process.” – Elena Montoya
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Changing the Definition of Food and Consumer Safety with Jaclyn Bowen from Clean Label Project | Episode 101
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are joined by Jaclyn Bowen, the Executive Director of the Clean Label Project. Food toxicology is the next frontier of food safety, and it’s not just coming, it's already here.
That’s why we need to change and expand the definition of food safety from only protecting consumers from microbial and pathogen contaminants, to also minimizing our exposure to dangerous environmental contaminants and toxins in everyday consumer products.
Tune in to discover how Jaclyn Bowen and the Clan Label Project are bringing about this change, as well as what you need to know about heavy metals, pesticide residues, and packaging migration issues.
In this episode:
💩 [01:53] Meet Jaclyn Bowen from the Clean Label Project
💩 [03:22] The new frontier of food safety
💩 [04:40] Why Jaclyn got into food toxicology
💩 [06:24] Heavy metals are a problem, even if they’re naturally occurring
💩 [10:47] How best to inform consumers and provide trust in the food system
💩 [13:56] The realities of modern food safety pressures in a global society
💩 [15:56] Putting the proverbial regulatory cart in front of the science horse
💩 [18:01] California’s AB 899: what’s good and what could improve
💩 [21:41] Gerber’s Hawaiian Delight and other baby food (for adults too)
💩 [25:03] Heavy metals in protein powder and supplement regulations
💩 [29:55] The challenges of getting enough protein and some solutions
💩 [33:37] Complementing a healthy lifestyle with supplements
💩 [35:50] CLP’s call to action for consumers to make brands accountable
💩 [37:46] How heavy metal testing works and how shockingly cheap it is
💩 [40:54] Testing for 500 different pesticides for less than $400
💩 [41:56] COAs might be making brands more lenient
💩 [43:17] Ingredients that present a higher heavy metal risk
💩 [44:07] Levels of detection versus levels of quantification
💩 [46:59] Why brands aren’t investing in testing and how to change that
💩 [51:28] Where baby food suppliers that didn’t pass muster are going
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Learn more about the Clean Label Project at cleanlabelproject.org.
Read Clean Label Project’s White Paper on Protein Powder.
If you want to learn more about the Cinnamon Applesauce Pouches Lead and Chromium Poisoning Outbreak mentioned in this episode, catch up with Episode 51 | Stanley Cups vs. Cinnamon Applesauce: Which Is More Likely To Give You Lead Poisoning?
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“ Trust [your suppliers] but verify. You don't have to have [a Clean Label Project] certification but recognize that the future of food safety is food toxicology. Heavy metals, pesticide residues, packaging migration issues are a modern food safety problem. And independent of CLP, it's a matter of doing your diligence in order to minimize the introduction of these contaminants for my family, as well as yours.” – Jaclyn Bowen
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The Tables Have Turned: Bill Marler Interviews Our Hosts Matt and Francine | Episode 100
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are celebrating their 100th episode and 2 years of the podcast. Incredible, right?
This means that this isn’t just your regular old episode. To make this milestone extra special, they decided to switch things up and invited the incredible Bill Marler, the nation's leading foodborne illness attorney and regular guest on the podcast, to interview THEM!
Tune in for a very special episode and celebration.
In this episode:
💩 [01:16] How the idea for the episode came about
💩 [03:18] Bill’s appreciation for the Don’t Eat Poop! podcast
💩 [04:38] How Francine became a go-to voice in food safety
💩 [08:40] The two men who changed the trajectory of Francine’s career
💩 [11:40] How food safety went from just a job to a true passion for Matt
💩 [14:56] The importance of being able to fire or be fired by clients in food safety
💩 [17:46] The Don’t Eat Poop! Podcast origin story
💩 [19:00] How the podcast grew over the last 100 episodes
💩 [22:08] How Matt and Francine fell into interviewing guests
💩 [24:13] The hard but really important stories that need to be told
💩 [28:07] The letter from a widow of Boar’s Head Listeria liverwurst episode
💩 [30:48] The moment when Bill truly realized how important this work is
💩 [34:14] Food Safety News: its origin, incredible growth, and how it works
💩 [37:25] The future of Food Safety News
💩 [40:37] When Francine first got to write an article for Food Safety News
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Catch up with past Bill Marler episodes:
Watch Bill Marler and Darin Detwiler’s Emmy award-winning documentary, Poisoned: The Dirty Truth About Your Food.
Listen to the episode where Matt and Francine get choked up by a Letter from a Widow of Boar’s Head Listeria Liverwurst | Episode 93.
Watch stories of foodborne illness victims represented by Marler Clark on their Vimeo channel.
Catch up with our Dr. Darin Detwiler episodes:
- The 1st interview on the podcast: Episode 13
- Episode 43
- Episode 81
Check out Francine’s episode on Hal King’s Food Safety Unwrapped podcast.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“ I'm very cognizant now of how I speak to people, what I say to people. And I know that it may change their path because those conversations very much changed my trajectory.” – Francine L Shaw
“ I think the ability to talk about food safety and the impacts on humans is just really important. And I think not only do you guys do that, but you also bring in perspective of the companies that are making mistakes and the companies that are doing a good job. I think the more people that talk about it, the more people will learn about it. It's a good thing. So, I thank you for you guys for doing this.” – Bill Marler
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20 Food Items You Don’t Actually Need to Refrigerate | Episode 99
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are going through the things we put in our refrigerator that don’t actually need to be in there.
Prepare to be surprised about some of the 20 food items they cover. We for sure thought they had to be refrigerated, but it turns out they don’t.
In other cases, you’ll discover that putting these items in the refrigerator is not only unnecessary but can actually lower the quality of the product, so that’s a big no-no.
This episode is for you, Lynn.
In this episode:
💩 [01:19] Here we are at episode 99. Wow!
💩 [04:11] A recap of the holidays and the passing of dear ones
💩 [06:36] The inspiration for today’s episode
💩 [10:02] #1 Ketchup and #2 potatoes
💩 [12:41] #3 Mayonnaise (you heard that right) and #4 mustard
💩 [16:13] #5 Soy sauce and Worcestershire sauce
💩 [17:28] #6 Tomatoes and #7 hot sauce
💩 [21:59] The long-lasting consequences of working in a restaurant
💩 [25:43] #8 Avocados and #9 fresh basil
💩 [27:31] #10 Stone fruit and buying in bulk
💩 [29:31] Potatoes and acrylamide
💩 [30:20] #11 Nuts and #12 chocolate (Francine’s favorite)
💩 [34:55] #13 Coffee and the cry once mentality
💩 [38:09] #14 Apples and apple trivia
💩 [41:32] #15 Nutella and peanut butter and #16 honey
💩 [42:39] #17 Cucumbers and #18 citrus fruit
💩 [43:12] #19 Fresh peppers, #20 onions, and crying
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Read the article Matt and Francine used for this episode in full here.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“ Benjamin Franklin is quoted for saying, ‘God loves us because he gave us beer.’ I actually think that we know God loves us because he gave us coffee and tea.” – Matthew Regusci
“ Ironically, when you work in a restaurant, you eat a lot of room-temperature food. You eat a lot of food standing up. You learn how to eat very fast. You're always the first one done eating at the table, clearing away the dishes before anybody else is done eating. Everybody gets really annoyed with you.” – Francine L Shaw
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A Culture of Doing the Right Thing with Sharon Beals from SKKB LLC | Episode 98
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are joined by Sharon Beals from SKKB LLC, straight from the Food Safety Consortium 2024.
Sharon truly cares about this work of keeping food safe. She has more than 40 years of experience in food safety, quality, and regulatory compliance, and during that time held senior-level roles across foodservice and manufacturing companies, and today she’s sharing her expertise with us.
Tune in to find out the lessons Sharon has learned throughout her career and that will help us keep food safe. They’ll talk through a culture of doing things right (even when no one is watching), the biggest food safety challenge of the next 20 years, and more.
In this episode:
💩 [01:10] Meet Sharon and her pu pu platter career
💩 [03:25] We need more people like Bob Jackson in our plants
💩 [06:26] A culture of doing the right thing
💩 [07:44] How to get people to always do the right thing
💩 [09:24] The need for a change in mindset in the industry
💩 [12:16] The two most dangerous phrases in the food business
💩 [13:25] We, in the food industry, need to learn from each other
💩 [15:04] The biggest changes in food safety during Sharon’s career
💩 [15:59] The biggest challenge for the next 20 years
💩 [18:37] The importance of having a cross-functional team
💩 [19:15] Always dealing with the crisis du jour
💩 [20:57] Supporting instead of criticizing those involved in an outbreak
💩 [22:40] Being in the industry for the right reasons
💩 [25:24] Preaching to the choir and the stories that need to be told
💩 [29:40] Our workforce should reflect our population
💩 [32:35] Learning from past food safety crises
💩 [35:18] What’s good and bad about the Food Safety Consortium 2024
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Learn more about SKKB LLC at skkbllc.com.
Get a hold of Sharon at skkbeals@outlook.com.
Catch up with Matt and Francine’s conversation with Deborah Blum, Episode 85 | The Road to Food Safety with Deborah Blum, Award-Winning Author of “The Poison Squad”.
Listen to Matt and Francine’s conversation with Steve Mandernach, Episode 90 | Rethinking How Things Are Done to Solve Food Safety Problems with Steven Mandernach from AFDO.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“ Don't get me started on food safety culture. Because you cannot have any niche culture – food safety, quality, personal safety, any of them – if you don't have a company culture of doing the right thing. It's not sustainable.” – Sharon Beals
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Insider Knowledge on the FDA's Traceability Rule FSMA 204 and Its Implementation with Andrew Kennedy from iFoodDS | Episode 97
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are joined by Andrew Kennedy from iFoodDS, straight from the Food Safety Consortium 2024.
Andrew worked in the FDA and was one of the key people involved in writing the FDA's Traceability Rule FSMA 204, and in this episode he is sharing some insights into the process.
He also talks about his time working for the FDA during the COVID pandemic, what he learned about food supply chain management (especially when things go wrong), and his current work facilitating the implementation of the traceability rule through iFoodDS, the leader in food supply chain software.
In this episode:
💩 [01:04] Andy, a long-awaited guest
💩 [03:33] Where the idea for New Era Partners came from
💩 [06:10] From traceability company founder to working in the FDA
💩 [09:17] FDA’s food supply chain management initiatives during COVID
💩 [14:11] How the food supply chain really works when it breaks
💩 [16:30] From the iterative development model to “you have one shot”
💩 [20:26] The importance of having 360º feedback from different sources
💩 [22:25] What does Andy prefer: government or private sector?
💩 [23:57] Implementing FDA's Traceability Rule FSMA 204
💩 [26:32] The current challenge to implementing FSMA 204
💩 [32:02] What’s good and bad about the Food Safety Consortium 2024
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Learn more about iFoodDS, the leader in food supply chain software, at ifoodds.com.
Want to know more about the FDA's Traceability Rule FSMA 204? You can find all the information you need here.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“ What I found out [when working on the FDA Traceability Rule] was how passionate people are about traceability. Which I didn't fully appreciate until we went through that process just how many people are invested in the effort around creating a traceability rule. And so that kind of opened my eyes like, Oh, this is a big deal.” – Andrew Kennedy
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Francine Wants a Poop-Free Salad | Episode 96
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are wrapping up the year by discussing the produce industry and how the shocking number of produce recalls in 2024 clearly shows that what they’re doing is far from working.
They talk about this year’s outbreaks and explore new food-safe technologies that can address the problem, such as Hypochlorous acid (HOCl) and electric shocks, which can kill foodborne pathogens.
They also share some insights into the podcast and some of the amazing results from one more year of Don’t Eat Poop!
In this episode:
💩 [01:08] The upcoming 100th episode
💩 [02:09] Wearing poop-free disposable gloves and setting an example
💩 [05:09] Francine’s poopy salad dilemma
💩 [09:21] 2024’s worst outbreak
💩 [09:55] We never know the real numbers of an outbreak
💩 [12:09] Vendors must also be held accountable for outbreaks
💩 [13:41] The importance of food safety compliance software
💩 [15:49] The current lettuce E. coli outbreak
💩 [16:46] What the produce industry is doing wrong
💩 [17:34] 2 new food-safe technologies that fully kill pathogens
💩 [19:33] Francine, the youngest old person out there
💩 [21:42] Salad ingredients that have been recalled in 2024
💩 [25:18] Coming up with content for Don’t Eat Poop!
💩 [26:21] Concerns from when Matt and Francine started the podcast
💩 [30:02] Some amazing results from one more year of Don’t Eat Poop!
💩 [31:35] The poop-free salad might have to wait
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Learn more about poop-free gloves by catching up with our episode with Steve Ardagh: Episode 57 | The Glove Food Safety Gap: Raising Disposable Glove Standards with Steve Ardagh, CEO and Founder of Eagle Protect.
Check out Francine’s LinkedIn post about her poopy salad dilemma.
Catch up with the episode we recorded earlier this year about when and where the next major food safety outbreak would be: Episode 60 | Food Safety Culture and The Next Big Food Safety Crisis.
Learn about Hypochlorous acid (HOCl) in this LinkedIn post by Francine.
Want to know more about barfly7777? Catch up on Episode 46 | Do You Know How to Get Rid of Salmonella? And How About An Airplane Bathroom Garlic Shrimp to Go?.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“ There's a lot of people in the industry that make a lot of money because they actually don't care.” – Matthew Regusci
“ There's nobody better to help the industry than the people that do what we do because we understand both sides of it. There are just a lot of issues right now.” – Francine L Shaw
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Don’t Kill Your Loved Ones During the Holidays | Episode 95
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are sharing some food safety tips for safe holiday cooking.
There are a lot of holiday parties this time of year, and you don't want to spend most of the time on your knees in the bathroom with your head over the toilet.
So, tune in to learn how to protect yourself, your family, and your friends from foodborne illnesses this holiday season.
In this episode:
💩 [01:29] The need for food safety around the holidays
💩 [02:08] A career created out of vomit and diarrhea
💩 [03:28] The evolution of food safety training
💩 [12:59] The importance of being safe when cooking for others
💩 [16:23] How to not kill your loved ones during the holidays
💩 [17:13] Step 1: Clean and sanitize your kitchen
💩 [20:45] One thing you must not do
💩 [21:35] Step 2: Separate to avoid cross-contamination
💩 [25:27] Step 3: Use a thermometer to cook meat and poultry
💩 [25:57] How to calibrate your thermometer
💩 [27:00] How to thaw your turkey safely
💩 [28:07] Step 4: Storing, refrigerating, and reheating food guidelines
💩 [31:23] Quick reminder for happy holidays
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
To learn more about the woman who tried to kill her ex’s family with Beef Wellington, catch up with Episode 38 | Don’t Cook Salmon in the Dishwasher!
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“Most people don't know about food safety. I think people know on the periphery about food safety, but most people think what they do is safe in their kitchen. A lot of that is not safe.” – Matthew Regusci
“ When you're with your extended family, you never know what type of immune system they really have. They could have cancer and not be telling you that they have cancer. So, we always need to be conscientious about their immune systems. So, it's important that we take all the precautions that we would take as if we worked in a restaurant.” – Francine L Shaw
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The Realities of Life as a Health Inspector with Justin Dwyer, Environmental Health Practitioner | Episode 94
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are joined by Justin Dwyer, an Environmental Health Practitioner for Peoria City/County Health Department, straight from the 2024 FDA Retail Food Seminar & IEHA Annual Education Conference.
Justin shares a little bit about the different parts of his job: handling food recalls, doing lead abatement inspections, overseeing farmers' markets and the food that falls under the Illinois Cottage Food Act, making sure well water is safe, inspecting food establishments, and investigating foodborne illness and outbreaks.
Tune in for some great stories, tips, and the realities of the life of a health inspector.
In this episode:
💩 [01:10] Meet Justin Dwyer, who ran the 2024 IEHA Conference
💩 [02:38] The recall for the applesauce with lead
💩 [04:15] Lead abatement inspections for children with lead poisoning
💩 [07:22] Crazy farmers’ market inspection stories
💩 [12:35] Cottage food and food freedom laws and their benefits
💩 [18:35] Well water safety and controversial sun tea
💩 [22:26] The life of an inspector on a weekly basis
💩 [25:19] Handling foodborne illness complaints and outbreaks
💩 [29:02] A frustrating large outbreak investigation
💩 [36:58] 2024 IEHA Conference insights and highlights
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Catch up with the episode about the lead in the applesauce: Episode 51 | Stanley Cups vs. Cinnamon Applesauce: Which Is More Likely To Give You Lead Poisoning?
Also catch up on our episode with Doug Farquhar where we talk about cottage food laws: Episode 87 | The Impacts of American Federalism on US Food Safety with Doug Farquhar.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“ The unfortunate thing is most foodborne illness complaints, we never find a true answer. And that's a simple fact, that's the retail side. Unlike industry, where you're going to be doing all your zone testing, and then you figure out exactly where it is, and you do all the recalls on all the product. Sometimes you don't ever truly know what happened.” – Justin Dwyer
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Letter from a Widow of Boar’s Head Listeria Liverwurst | Episode 93
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are tying a knot in the Boar’s Head Listeria outbreak now that the outbreak has been deemed over by the CDC.
They share the final toll of the outbreak, discuss the reality of underreporting, and talk about its impacts.
They also share the very grave and necessary letter from one of Bill Marler’s, the nation's leading foodborne illness attorney, clients who lost her husband to a Boar’s Head Listeria-laced liverwurst sandwich.
Warning: this episode discusses grief and loss and recounts the death of a beloved husband. You might want to keep some tissues handy, this is a hard one.
In this episode:
💩 [01:17] Francine’s dedication to Don’t Eat Poop!
💩 [03:05] Tying a knot in the Boar’s Head Listeria outbreak
💩 [04:55] The impact of the outbreak on delis
💩 [06:05] The numbers are far greater than what’s reported
💩 [08:26] Letter from a widow of Boar’s Head Listeria liverwurst
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Read the letter on Food Safety News, Words from a widow of Boar’s Head Listeria liverwurst.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“I never thought my husband would die eating a Liverwurst sandwich. (...) My question to Boar’s Head is, ‘Would you take poisoned meat home to your family and loved ones?’ We all know the answer! (...) I’m devastated, heartbroken, and I feel I will never be the same.” – a Widow of Boar’s Head Listeria Liverwurst
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A Recap of 2024’s Major Outbreaks with Bill Marler | Episode 92
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are joined by Bill Marler, the nation's leading foodborne illness attorney, to discuss some of the major outbreaks of 2024 (so far) and there are many.
According to Matt, it feels like the industry, in terms of a lot of amazing brands, decided to throw their brands into a dumpster, put gasoline on it, and light a fricking match over the last six months.
They talk about the Boar’s Head Listeria outbreak, the McDonald's Quarter Pounders E. coli O157:H7 outbreak, and the Grimmway Farms carrots E. coli O121:H19 outbreak.
As well as some you probably haven’t heard of like the Andre’s Banquet Center E. coli O157:H7 outbreak, the Wolverine Packing Co. E. coli O157:H7 outbreak, and the Montana Wagyu Beef E. coli O157:H7 outbreak.
In this episode:
💩 [02:09] Diving deep into one outbreak or talking about them all?
💩 [03:26] The many major outbreaks of 2024
💩 [05:27] Stories of grief from Bill’s clients
💩 [08:36] Boar’s Head Listeria outbreak
💩 [10:59] McDonald's Quarter Pounders E. coli O157:H7 outbreak
💩 [12:35] Food safety in the board of directors
💩 [14:06] McDonald’s poor response to their outbreak
💩 [18:18] Chi-Chi’s 2003 Hepatitis A outbreak
💩 [19:22] How companies respond to outbreaks
💩 [20:44] Iwaspoisoned.com and Bill’s strong ethics
💩 [21:57] The cost of food safety headlines for McDonald’s
💩 [22:57] Grimmway Farms carrots E. coli O121:H19 outbreak
💩 [29:14] The resurgence of undercooked E. coli-laced hamburger outbreaks
💩 [33:55] Where food safety liability lies
💩 [35:18] How to calibrate a thermometer
💩 [36:24] Every outbreak could and should have been prevented
💩 [38:28] The one who holds the industry accountable
💩 [39:51] “Get the F out of the FDA” shirts and Thanksgiving wishes
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Read Dr. Darin Detwiler’s article Matt mentioned Anticipating the inevitable: Predicting the next major food safety failure.
Visit Bill Marler’s blog at marlerblog.com.
Watch this short video about one of the victims of the 2011 Listeria outbreak posted by Marler Clark.
Check out the post by Patrick Quade, founder of Iwaspoisoned.com, about The Cost of Food Safety Headlines: 2024 McDonald's Edition.
Catch up with past Bill Marler episodes:
- Episode 17 | This Legendary Food Safety Attorney Has Made An Offer You Can't Refuse
- Episode 18 | Bill Marler: The Attorney Behind The $15.6 Million Settlement from Jack in the Box Following Their Infamous 1992-1993 e. Coli Outbreak
- Bonus Episode | Breaking News: What's Going on with Boar's Head? The Latest of This Listeria Outbreak with Bill Marler
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“We all are going to die. I get it. I think the thing that drives me the craziest about death in food cases is people live their entire lives, and then all of a sudden, they eat something, and it kills them, or it kills their child, kills their spouse. It's just not the way it's supposed to be.” – Bill Marler
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Food Safety Resources for the Retail Food Industry with FDA Retail Food Specialist Carolyn White | Episode 91
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are joined by FDA Retail Food Specialist Carolyn White at the 2024 FDA Retail Food Seminar & IEHA Annual Education Conference.
No one is happy to see a health inspector, right? Well, today’s guest will help reframe that point of view as she shows that a health inspector is NOT the enemy but a resource.
She shares some essential FDA resources available for retail food safety both for regulators and operators.
In true Don’t Eat Poop! fashion, they dive deep into the issue of Norovirus including all the projectile vomiting that goes with it. They also share great stories of being in food retail.
In this episode:
💩 [01:35] Carolyn White and her role as FDA Retail Food Specialist
💩 [03:21] The power of Carolyn’s background
💩 [05:11] Working with different rules in different places
💩 [05:56] A day in the life of an FDA Retail Food Specialist
💩 [06:37] The importance of the Annexes in the Food Code
💩 [10:09] Free tools and resources for regulators and operators
💩 [12:36] Norovirus and the difficulty of preventing its spread
💩 [16:09] An FDA Retail Food Specialist’s role in an outbreak situation
💩 [17:19] How local regulatory programs are making a difference
💩 [21:22] Regulators and operators share the same goals
💩 [24:52] No conversation is off-limits for folks in retail food
💩 [26:45] The importance of health inspectors
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Read Francine’s recent article for QA Magazine Sanitation Supplement: The Essentials of Sanitation in Food Facilities.
Check out the FDA Employee Health Policy Tool Carolyn mentioned.
Meet Vomiting Larry and get a visual representation of vomit spray.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“For our industry stakeholders, we talk a lot about food safety management systems and are we putting in a culture of food safety into our establishment, whether you have a 4 million dollar budget or a 40 dollar budget, right? The importance of that food safety culture.” – Carolyn White
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Rethinking How Things Are Done to Solve Food Safety Problems with Steven Mandernach from AFDO | Episode 90
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are joined by Steven Mandernach, Executive Director at the Association of Food and Drug Officials, straight from the Food Safety Consortium 2024.
“I never thought of it that way” is something you’ll catch yourself saying throughout this episode full of gems.
Prepare yourself to better understand the harsh realities of being a food inspector, the consequences of the planned budgetary cuts by the FDA to food inspections, how food e-commerce could be better regulated, and more.
In this episode:
💩 [01:07] AFDO and what it does for state and local regulators
💩 [03:31] Understand the FDA Reorganization Plan and its impacts
💩 [08:06] Rethinking the requirements for food inspectors
💩 [10:40] Just-in-time training and specialization
💩 [14:15] FDA information sharing challenges
💩 [17:15] The realities of food inspector salaries
💩 [18:42] A hopeful solution for the information sharing issues
💩 [20:50] When state departments step in for USDA and FDA
💩 [25:45] The food safety challenges of food e-commerce
💩 [32:01] AFDO and lobbying
💩 [33:26] What to do when going through difficult budget times
💩 [34:55] The contracting system between the states and the FDA
💩 [38:17] The FDA’s sometimes questionable risk analysis
💩 [40:23] The sheer deficit of food inspectors
💩 [43:38] Get the F out of the FDA
💩 [45:39] How the reorg is going so far
💩 [47:31] The FDA’s dilemma: a public health or regulatory organization?
💩 [49:45] What’s good about the Food Safety Consortium 2024
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Learn more about AFDO at afdo.org.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“So, if I were a commissioner right now of the Food and Drug Administration, I hope they realize this is your last chance to fix food. If you don't do it, a single food agency is next. I mean, I really don't think you get another bite at the apple, you've had all of them now.” – Steven Mandernach
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The 13th Annual Food Safety Consortium Recap | Episode 89
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine have just gotten back from the Food Safety Consortium 2024 and they’re sharing everything while it’s still fresh in their minds.
You will hear all about their experience and their biggest takeaways. You will also be in the know about the amazing interviews they have coming your way.
So, don’t miss this event recap!
In this episode:
💩 [01:32] An exciting start to the Food Safety Consortium 2024
💩 [04:19] The best networking event in food safety
💩 [07:29] The difference being in Washington D.C. made
💩 [09:11] The interviews they did and that are coming your way
💩 [11:11] The Women in Food Safety networking event
💩 [13:35] The sense of community around industry colleagues
💩 [15:34] The missed opportunities of our legal system
💩 [16:47] What you can expect in the upcoming episodes
💩 [17:36] A taste of fame
💩 [18:48] Matt’s and Francine’s biggest takeaways from the Consortium
💩 [21:32] Food safety concerns aren’t the same all over the world
💩 [23:47] Concerns about the FDA’s Reorganization Plan
💩 [25:00] The right reason for wearing black gloves
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Stay up to date on all things Food Safety Consortium for next year’s edition here.
Catch up on our interview with Rick Biros, the organizer of the Food Safety Consortium, on last year’s edition, Episode 37 | Integrating Cannabis into The World of Food Safety with Rick Biros.
Learn more about Women in Food Safety.
Catch up on the episode about the FDA’s plans to cut food funding to the states, Episode 69 | A Look at the FDA’s Reorganization Plan and Some Food Safety Mythbusting.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“Really, truly the Food Safety Consortium is the best networking event that I have ever been to.” – Matthew Regusci
“Corporate culture has got to change before we can change food safety culture and that's where we need to start. I know that's where the difference is going to be made.” – Francine L Shaw
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McDonald’s, Here We Go Again: Deadly E. Coli Outbreak Linked to McDonald’s | Episode 88
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are talking about the hot topic of the past few weeks: the deadly McDonald’s E. Coli outbreak.
This is a multistate outbreak with cases in 13 states and one death so far. Tune in to learn more about the facts surrounding the outbreak as well as Matt’s and Francine’s expert opinions on the situation.
They’ll also address the food safety controversy around Donald Trump’s publicity stunt at a McDonald’s on October 20, 2024.
In this episode:
💩 [03:15] The current McDonald’s E. Coli outbreak
💩 [05:10] The source of the outbreak and what we should worry about
💩 [09:09] The incredible shift that happened over a generation
💩 [11:11] The process to confirm the outbreak source
💩 [12:28] When the issue is most likely in the supply chain
💩 [17:09] Food safety facts about Trump’s publicity stunt at McDonald’s
💩 [24:27] Trip down fast food memory lane
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Catch up with our talk with Tia and Jill from Catalyst LLC. in Episode 36 | Food Safety Talk with Tia Glave and Jill Stuber from Catalyst.
Check out Burger King’s vintage commercial Francine mentions, Have It Your Way.
Food Safety News articles on this Outbreak (up until October 28, 2024):
- McDonald’s linked to deadly outbreak of E. coli infections
- McDonald’s says Taylor Farms supplied onions linked to deadly E. coli outbreak
- More patients identified in outbreak traced to McDonald’s; Taylor Farms recalls onions
- Colorado and McDonald’s officials say hamburger was not a source of E. coli outbreak
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“I've been in these Taylor Farms facilities, their sanitization routine is amazing. So, if they had a bad batch of E. Coli laced onions that went through the facility, the chances of that E. Coli being still in that facility, either on the belts, on the machines, or in anything is close to zero. They're not clean, they are sanitized.” – Matthew Regusci
“You can't go into a McDonald's and say, ‘I want a rare burger’. It isn't going to happen. They're not going to give you a rare burger. Policies and procedures that they have in place for cooking those burgers are pretty intense. You might get a burnt one, but the odds of getting a rare one are pretty slim.” – Francine L Shaw
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The Impacts of American Federalism on US Food Safety with Doug Farquhar | Episode 87
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are joined by Doug Farquhar, the Director of Government Affairs of the National Environmental Health Association, at the 2024 FDA Retail Food Seminar & IEHA Annual Education Conference.
Doug is on a mission to encourage US states to adopt more recent versions of the FDA Food Code (only 4 states have adopted the most recent version so far) but this gets really tricky because of federalism.
Tune in as he sheds some light on just how independent every single state, county, and municipality is from the federal government and what that ultimately means for US food safety.
In this episode:
💩 [01:32] Doug’s career in environmental health
💩 [03:30] Food safety in national brands versus mom-and-pops
💩 [07:53] The impact of not doing food safety
💩 [10:41] State and local issues with guidance from the federal government
💩 [12:45] Issues when it comes to meat
💩 [14:49] Cottage food laws: it all depends on where you are
💩 [17:23] The frustrating predicament American food trucks face
💩 [20:10] Selling food on the Internet and food fraud
💩 [21:19] Peanut butter, Nutella, Vegemite, and world trade
💩 [25:54] Codex Alimentarius and selling overseas
💩 [27:10] The Food Code and why its evolution is necessary
💩 [30:44] When the media doesn’t know what they’re talking about
💩 [34:56] Very outdated CDC food safety data
💩 [37:20] Food Code adoption throughout the US
💩 [40:07] Regulation adoption within different states
💩 [41:45] Cannabis legalization in Alabama
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“It's very interesting because it's very complicated and the way we do it in this country, as I said, is a federalist system. The locals, the states, the federal government, they all have to work together, but really the authority, you can do whatever you want to inside your state, inside your jurisdiction, as long as you don't conflict with what the FDA is doing.” – Doug Farquhar
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Ask Us Anything! (LinkedIn Live) | Episode 86
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are sharing with you the Ask Us Anything! LinkedIn Live they did on Sep 25, 2024, during Food Safety Awareness & Education Month.
This event was unscripted and they answered questions as they came, and there were some amazing ones. They covered the need (or not) for new regulations, the differences between the EU and the US regulations, the future of food safety especially the role of AI in that, and much more.
There was even a special appearance of Francine’s famous tiara, so tune in for a light episode that’s also packed with great information.
In this episode:
💩 [02:46] What are the best ways to engage in social media as a consultant?
💩 [04:36] What new regulations do you see coming from the recent outbreaks?
💩 [10:11] Do you think retailers hold enough responsibility in ensuring consumers don't get a hold of contaminated products?
💩 [15:44] With the difference between the EU food standards and US standards do you ever see the US catching up to their level of regulations?
💩 [17:40] I don’t have the resources to visit all of my hundreds of suppliers so how do I choose which ones to visit?
💩 [20:08] What technologies/innovations do you see making the biggest impact in food safety in the next 3 years?
💩 [24:23] Do you see audits being performed by robots utilizing AI with our known shortage of auditors?
💩 [33:54] Do you see cannabis adopting the audit schemes used in food safety or are they currently being audited by SQF, BRCG & GFSI?
💩 [34:56] Book giveaway and Francine’s Goddess of Food Safety tiara
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Catch up with the LinkedIn Live in video format here.
Learn more about the Book Giveaway and how you can win a copy of Francine’s book “Who Watches the Kitchen” at Elena Montoya’s post.
Check out the Goddess of Food Safety Award and crown Francine received from Saldesia Corporation here.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“We have to adopt technology based upon its ability to get the job done, and get the job done right, and get the job done safely, versus just adopting technology for technology's sake, which I think sometimes we end up doing.” – Matthew Regusci
“There's a definite shortage of audits. We need to find a way to make sure that the auditors that are doing these audits are actually qualified to do the audits. And we're not just sending people out there to mark off a checklist and be paid to mark off that checklist.” – Francine L Shaw
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The Road to Food Safety with Deborah Blum, Award-Winning Author of “The Poison Squad” | Episode 85
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are joined by Pulitzer Prize winner and New York Times-bestselling author Deborah Blum, at the 2024 FDA Retail Food Seminar & IEHA Annual Education Conference.
She is the author of “The Poison Squad”, one of Matt’s favorite food safety books.
Together they explore her outrageous findings from the time before regulations that she shares in the book, as well as ways to make things change for the better.
In this episode:
💩 [00:59] Meet Deborah and “The Poison Squad” book
💩 [03:41] Food in the 19th and early 20th century wasn’t as safe as we think
💩 [08:23] Dr. Wiley, the Poison Squad, and low-dose toxicology
💩 [12:57] The embalmed milk scandals
💩 [17:48] Important regulatory movements in the US and their scandals
💩 [23:01] Good regulations with insufficient funds and little enforcement
💩 [29:06] Francine’s experience as a health inspector
💩 [31:20] How to make a difference and the holes in regulations
💩 [32:44] We’ve come a long way but not far enough
💩 [34:34] The challenges of being an informed consumer
💩 [37:04] The power of cookbooks for education
💩 [41:57] Why our lifespan increased over the last century
💩 [44:07] The “good old days”
💩 [46:23] The ongoing battle against food adulteration
💩 [48:30] Food safety in the future
💩 [50:45] Consumers misdirected anger and Boar’s Head outbreak
💩 [55:19] Revolution by inch
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Learn all about Deborah Blum and her books at deborahblum.com.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“Back to your question, ‘How do we make things change for the better?’ We have people like you. We get the word out. We let people know that there are these issues. We don't quit talking about them. Eventually, we get change. It's never as fast as I want it to be. I've come to accept that sometimes you get revolution by inch.” – Deborah Blum
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Preventative Instead of Reactive Food Safety with Patrick Quade, Founder and CEO of Iwaspoisoned.com | Episode 84
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are joined by Patrick Quade, Founder and CEO of Iwaspoisoned.com, at the 2024 FDA Retail Food Seminar & IEHA Annual Education Conference.
They talk about Iwaspoisoned.com, which is a food safety crowdsourcing website. People can come to the website and report a food safety issue, and that data is then used to detect outbreaks, clusters, and trends in real time.
Tune in to hear about the great impact this technology can have in food safety by allowing companies to prevent instead of react to challenges.
In this episode:
💩 [01:28] Meet Patrick Quade
💩 [03:16] How Iwaspoisoned.com came to be
💩 [07:43] Food poisoning reporting and underreporting
💩 [09:56] How Iwaspoisoned.com evolved into a business
💩 [12:14] Concerns around the name Iwaspoisoned
💩 [14:03] How they were able to foresee Chipotle’s series of foodborne illness outbreaks
💩 [17:40] How they deal with inaccurate reports
💩 [22:10] Making it easy to report
💩 [23:31] Study on Norovirus outbreaks and Iwaspoisoned.com reports
💩 [27:07] Iwaspoisoned.com around the world
💩 [28:16] Handling unusual or criminal reports
💩 [30:22] Brand-specific insights
💩 [32:47] Encouraging consumer, government, and industry participation
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Check out iwaspoisoned.com.
You will find the post on LinkedIn that helps explain what Patrick’s B2B company, DineSafe, does here.
Catch up with the episode Matt and Francine talk about a woman charged with murder for allegedly poisoning her ex-husband's family with Beef Wellington: Episode 38.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“We detected the first major Chipotle outbreak in real time, Simi Valley in 2015, and most of their subsequent outbreaks in real time. They lost 10 billion in market cap from top to bottom, from their peak at the start of their string of food poisoning outbreaks to the bottom.” – Patrick Quade
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The Future of Food Safety (Keynote at 2024 FDA Retail Food Seminar & Annual Education Conference) | Episode 83
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are looking into their very own crystal ball and diving into “The Future of Food Safety” on their Keynote at 2024 FDA Retail Food Seminar & Annual Education Conference.
They talk about what golden calves they think are going to die over the next couple decades and why they're going to die with emerging technology and increase in consumers.
As usual, they say what needs to be said regardless of how controversial. So tune in for a very insightful episode.
In this episode:
💩 [01:12] The origins of “Don’t Eat Poop!”
💩 [05:52] Matt’s and Francine’s backgrounds
💩 [08:10] Assessments and data management are going to change
💩 [08:56] Federalism is too complicated for food safety
💩 [12:10] Boar’s Head Listeria Outbreak: questions and lessons
💩 [15:15] Future of accountability in food safety
💩 [17:01] The possibility of getting fired for doing your job
💩 [20:38] Emerging technologies and the demand for food safety data
💩 [25:19] Kitchen robots and the challenges of inspecting them
💩 [28:58] Marketing that doesn’t meet the FDA Food Code
💩 [30:13] The need for food safety in politics
💩 [31:40] Being a health inspector, a thankless job
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Catch up with previous episodes mentioned:
Episode 80 | Don’t Drink Poop! Olympians Swimming in the Seine
Episode 63 | The Future of the Fast Food Industry and Robot Food Safety (the one about Flippy, the kitchen robot)
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“Where we see the future going is not a political issue, but it is a voter issue and consumers are voters. And this is going to be a huge impact. And as congress, as state administrators, and as local councilmen and women start looking at this, they're going to see that it doesn't matter. It is a nonpartisan issue and consumers are going to make a lot of changes over the next decade.” – Matthew Regusci
“We're here, guys. Technology isn't stopping. It's going to continue to go. We're not going to slow it down and they move at a much faster pace than we do. By the time we get there, they're going to be doing something else. And we need to make them care about food safety before they kill somebody. And they're not looking to do that. That's not what they want to do, they just don't understand food safety.” – Francine L Shaw
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Household Foods in The US That Are Banned in Other Countries | Episode 82
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, food safety industry veterans Matt and Francine are taking you through a list of 29 common foods that are approved in the United States, but banned in other countries.
Prepare yourself to be surprised by the bad foods and thoroughly entertained by our hosts and the stories of how they consume these products in their daily lives.
In this episode:
💩 [02:21] Skittles
💩 [03:30] Mountain Dew
💩 [04:48] Little Debbie Swiss Rolls
💩 [08:05] Frosted Flakes, Honey Bunches of Oats, and Rice Krispies
💩 [09:04] Coffee-mate
💩 [09:35] MSG in food
💩 [11:29] Stove Top stuffing
💩 [11:59] Drumstick frozen dairy desserts
💩 [12:36] Wheat Thins
💩 [12:50] Gatorade
💩 [13:17] Pop-Tarts
💩 [13:33] Farmer John Pork Breakfast Sausage Links
💩 [13:45] Lucky Charms
💩 [14:53] Tostitos Salsa Con Queso Dip
💩 [15:32] Ritz Crackers
💩 [16:38] Fresca
💩 [17:23] Pillsbury Biscuits
💩 [19:16] Sunkist Soda
💩 [19:21] Betty Crocker Fudge Brownie Mix
💩 [19:39] Pillsbury Pie Crust
💩 [19:51] Raspberry Jell-O
💩 [20:33] Doritos Light
💩 [20:49] Arby's Sourdough Breakfast Bread, Croissant, and French Toast Sticks
💩 [20:59] Fast food and memories
💩 [23:28] Genetically engineered papaya
💩 [25:32] High fructose corn syrup
💩 [25:54] Farm-raised salmon
💩 [28:24] Chicken that's been chlorinated
💩 [29:43] Meat with ractopamine
💩 [30:29] Bread tainted with potassium bromate
💩 [31:01] Dairy with rBST or rBGH hormones
💩 [33:14] Sanitation in cruise lines
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
If you want a visual of the really cool mugs that Matt and Francine are using, you can check out this post that Francine made to thank Steve for hers.
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Global Glove Safety Day and Other Big Food Safety Issues with “Food Safety Icon” Dr. Darin Detwiler | Episode 81
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine welcome back an esteemed guest onto the podcast, the food safety expert and advocate Dr. Darin Detwiler.
He’s here to spread the word about the Global Glove Safety Day initiative, taking place on September 18th, during Food Safety Education Month. This day serves as a compelling reminder that food safety is truly #InOurHands, both in a literal and figurative sense.
Of course, they also tackled some big food safety issues that need to be discussed like the need for audits and inspections to have real consequences, how policy is not keeping up with changes in the industry, the slap in the wrist nature of corporate responsibility enforcement, and more.
In this episode:
💩 [01:22] Meet Dr. Darin and learn about his work
💩 [05:34] Food safety in the US vs. in the rest of the world
💩 [08:54] Pros and cons of federalism for food safety
💩 [11:31] Boar’s Head and the need to revamp audits and inspection processes
💩 [21:00] Policy, innovation, and the speed of change in the food industry
💩 [27:11] Corporate responsibility and culture around food safety
💩 [32:38] Startling findings about gloves and why they are problematic
💩 [42:15] Examples of glove misuse
💩 [48:14] Global Glove Safety Day and Dr. Darin’s son’s tragic story
💩 [54:24] The defeat of discovering your gloves aren’t safe
💩 [57:04] A food safety insight from the Netherlands
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Learn more about Global Glove Safety Day here.
Catch up with Dr. Darin Detwiler's previous episodes on the Don't Eat POOP! A Food Safety Podcast:
- Episode 13 | Don't Eat Poison! Dr. Darin Detwiler’s Story of Heartbreak, Food Safety Awareness, And Advocacy
- Episode 43 | Unveiling Silent Stories of Food Safety with “Food Safety Icon” Dr. Darin Detwiler
Watch the documentary “Poisoned: The Dirty Truth About Your Food” on Netflix.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“I'm so enthusiastic about this idea of Global Glove Safety Day, the idea of if food safety is in our hands, then maybe we should get it right when it comes to gloves.” – Dr. Darin Detwiler
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Don’t Drink Poop! Olympians Swimming in the Seine | Episode 80
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are turning their attention to the Olympics where some of the athletes were unfortunately drinking poop while competing in the river Seine.
You’ll hear all about the controversial situation, including the “cleaning” of the Seine River and the Olympic athletes that fell ill after swimming in the polluted river waters.
They also take a detour to talk about potable and non-potable water and take a long hard look at the failings of the certification process in the industry.
In this episode:
💩 [01:27] Olympians’ dedication and lifestyle
💩 [04:27] The controversial and questionably effective Seine River cleanup
💩 [08:44] 8 Olympian triathletes got sick and the lack of real answers
💩 [13:55] The problematic non-potable water survey question
💩 [19:38] Issues with qualifications and certifications in the food safety industry
💩 [24:51] Balancing calling out what’s bad and elevating what’s good
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“I think there are a lot of people in the industry that say the sky is falling so frequently, people just tune them out. If all you do is bash the industry for being terrible, for food safety and quality, the industry is not going to listen to you.” – Matthew Regusci
“These people, a lot of them, not all, a lot of them have some sort of certification saying that they're qualified to do what they do. At the very minimum, they should know what potable water is. We need to change our certification process or how we qualify people for these positions because clearly there's a problem.” – Francine L Shaw
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Breaking News: What's Going on with Boar's Head? The Latest of This Listeria Outbreak with Bill Marler
In this bonus episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, Francine and Matt are joined by a very special guest, Bill Marler, a leading expert in food safety. Together, they dive into the Boar’s Head Listeria outbreak, shedding light on how things went so wrong and why it’s crucial for food companies to take responsibility when outbreaks like this occur.
You’ll hear about Boar’s Head’s food safety failures, the rise in Listeria cases across the U.S., and why transparency and accountability are the only way forward for companies involved in outbreaks.
Bill shares powerful insights from his decades of experience in food safety law, including how government agencies and corporations can prevent future tragedies.
In this episode:
💩 [01:25] Bill Marler shares his background and work in food safety law
💩 [05:20] Breaking down the Boar’s Head Listeria outbreak: What happened? Why is it deadly?
💩 [12:34] Francine’s take as a former inspector: How did this plant stay open?
💩 [18:44] Matt discusses the disconnect between corporate HQ and the facility level
💩 [27:00] The role of transparency in food safety and crisis management
💩 [39:15] Legal implications: What companies need to know in the wake of an outbreak
💩 [50:18] What consumers can do to prioritize food safety in government policy
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Food Safety News: What you need to know about the Boar’s Head Listeria Outbreak
Food Safety News: House and Senate should act now on Boar’s Head plant
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“What does a company do if something like this happens? First, understand the science. If they tell you it’s your product, it’s your fault. Own it and take action.” – Bill Marler
“This isn’t just about Boar’s Head. It’s about transparency and how companies handle their mistakes. The whole industry is watching.” – Francine L. Shaw
“I’m never surprised anymore about what happens in the food industry. But it’s shocking to see these kinds of inspection reports get ignored.” – Matthew Regusci
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The Food Safety Side of the Cannabis Industry with Carly Bader of Willow Industries | Episode 79
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are joined by Carly Bader, Manager of Science at Willow Industries, a cannabis decontamination technology company.
Just like foods and beverages, cannabis can also be contaminated with microbial diseases such as salmonella and E. coli. In this episode, you’ll learn more about that as well as some ways used to make cannabis safe for all consumers.
Also, tune in to hear about Carly’s exciting first experience at the Food Safety Consortium.
In this episode:
💩 [00:49] Meet Carly and Willow Industries
💩 [01:36] Cannabis contamination explained
💩 [02:50] Using food safety expertise in the cannabis industry
💩 [03:41] Ozone vs. irradiation in cannabis decontamination
💩 [05:13] The food safety side of the cannabis industry
💩 [06:17] Carly’s experience with the Food Safety Consortium
💩 [09:27] Trust in the cannabis industry
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Register for the Food Safety Consortium 2024 here.
Willow Industries website willowindustries.com.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“We're not the redheaded stepchild, we are just scientists, just like anyone else. And I often have said, you know, if it was Tortillas or bread or meat on my side of the industry… It's just the same. If it's a leafy green or a green bud of weed, I feel like we all have here a collective trust in consumer safety and a trust in science.” – Carly Bader
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Replay: Do You Know How to Get Rid of Salmonella? | Episode 78
After the Quaker Oats food recall case study was featured in the last episode, food safety industry veterans Francine L. Shaw and Matt Ragucci decided to bring back this important episode that was aired shortly after that recall happened.
In this conversation, Matt and Francine spotlight an important discussion on developing standard food safety procedures in homes and the role of consumers in demanding safer food through better food safety regulations.
Towards the end, there is a humorous discussion about a 'chef' who prepares meals in very unconventional settings. The episode concludes with their signature sign-off, 'Don't eat poop!' (especially from airplane bathrooms!).
In this episode:
💩 [05:34] Dealing with another salmonella outbreak
💩 [14:40] The basic steps of a food recall
💩 [16:42] Do you know how to get rid of salmonella in poultry?
💩 [17:58] Understanding the risks of raw cookie dough
💩 [20:59] The dangers of raw ingredients: eggs and flour
💩 [26:27] The hotel room cook strikes again (in an airplane bathroom!)
Resources from this episode
Quaker Oats Salmonella Food Recall Case Study | Episode 77
Creating a Recall-Ready Food Safety Industry | Episode 42
Mile High Bathroom Garlic Shrimp & Mash
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“Our government has created an atmosphere of [...] rolling the dice every time we eat products. They’re literally okay with salmonella being in chicken and eggs. The expectation is that "housewives should know what to do with their chicken.” – Matthew Regusci
“I truly don't think anything will happen until consumers demand a change.” – Francine L Shaw
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Quaker Oats Salmonella Food Recall Case Study | Episode 77
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are once more talking about the Quaker Oats Salmonella Recall, this time in light of the public FDA letter that got sent to PepsiCo about the case.
They are doing a case study of this food recall, breaking it down, and making it meaningful for the people that are on the ground managing or working on facilities like this.
Food Safety Talk: Make sure to stay tuned for all you need to know about hand washing.
In this episode:
💩 [01:00] The true magnitude of the Quaker Oats Food Recall
💩 [04:18] How did PepsiCo’s food safety program go so wrong?
💩 [07:44] Understanding lab results and taking corrective action
💩 [10:42] How this PepsiCo facility failed and got shut down
💩 [15:24] You’re ever as strong as your weakest link
💩 [17:06] The origin of hand washing for disease prevention
💩 [20:19] What needs to happen for food safety change
💩 [25:28] 5 myths and facts about hand washing
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Catch up with the episode where we originally talked about the Quaker Oats Recall: Episode 46: Do You Know How to Get Rid of Salmonella? And How About An Airplane Bathroom Garlic Shrimp to Go?
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“It just goes to show it doesn't matter how big you are or how small you are, food safety is food safety. Everybody's battling with the same problem, they're battling with the same pathogens.” – Matthew Regusci
“This is what needs to happen. They need to not be afraid to let people talk about the truth on national stages and quit talking about the same things over and over.” – Francine L Shaw
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Silk and Great Value Brand Plant-based Milk Listeria Outbreak in Canada | Episode 76
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are talking about a Listeria outbreak in Canada that was traced back to Silk and Great Value brand plant-based milk, both produced in the same Danone Canada facility.
Tune in as they make sense of what went wrong, talk about the consequences of such a recall, and educate us about Listeria.
They also tackle the risks of raw milk, as well as the logistics behind it.
In this episode:
💩 [01:21] Conferences that are coming up
💩 [03:20] Silk and Great Value plant-based milk recall in Canada
💩 [06:03] How did this outbreak happen?
💩 [10:38] The importance of testing for Listeria in your facility
💩 [14:19] 5 things you didn’t know (but need to know) about Listeria
💩 [18:37] The raw milk issue
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
As of August 7, 2024, this is the most recent Food Safety News article on this outbreak More patients identified in Listeria outbreak linked to plant-based milk.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“I would rather know I have Listeria in my facility and be actively trying to get rid of it, than all of a sudden having the FDA knocking on my door saying ‘Hey, 9 people were confirmed sick and the epidemiology is looking to your facility’.” – Matthew Regusci
“Every week, there's a recall. I guess that's good and bad, good they're catching it and doing the recalls, bad that there are so many, it seems.” – Francine L Shaw
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China’s Cooking Oil Scandal | Episode 75
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are talking about Chinese food safety after an outrageous cooking oil scandal in China.
Tune in for all the details, some insight into how it happened and what it may mean for food safety in China.
Also learn about the shocking number of diseases spread through food.
In this episode:
💩 [02:37] China’s cooking oil scandal
💩 [06:00] Chinese government and Chinese food safety
💩 [08:49] How this oil scandal probably happened
💩 [12:42] Anecdotes and personal wishes
💩 [18:34] Going deeper into the article about the scandal
💩 [20:29] A shocking food safety fact about foodborne illnesses
💩 [22:03] The importance of safe drinking water access
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Catch up with the last episode: Lead and Other Heavy Metals in Tampons | Episode 74.
Check out the article Matt mentions Outrage in China over use of unwashed fuel tankers to transport cooking oil.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“I've been to a lot of different countries and I've eaten a lot of different food. Really hard to absorb a culture without eating with them. It is really hard to do because food is so much of what people do and how people live.” – Matthew Regusci
“More than 200 diseases are spread through food. I bet the average person would be shocked to know that because we only really talk about the big six.” – Francine L Shaw
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Lead and Other Heavy Metals in Tampons | Episode 74
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are talking about something that does not fall within the realm of food safety but still needs to be discussed because it affects millions of women: tampons.
They are going over some recent studies that show there are lead, arsenic, and other potentially toxic chemicals in tampons and panty liners.
This is probably the most difficult episode they’ve ever recorded since this topic is no joke. So, get ready for a wild ride.
In this episode:
💩 [01:22] The issue with tampons
💩 [05:05] Research findings, stats, and next questions
💩 [11:28] We live in a plastic world
💩 [12:38] Why we keep finding toxic and harmful things in everything
💩 [14:29] What tampons are made of
💩 [16:22] A hard topic to talk about
💩 [20:38] The chicken or the egg?
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Catch up with the placenta episode: Episode 28 | Don't Eat Placentas! (or do, maybe, I guess).
Check out the NPR article Matt talks about: A study found toxic metals in popular tampon brands. Here's what experts advise.
Check out the CNN article: Tampons contain lead, arsenic and potentially toxic chemicals, studies say. Here’s what to know.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“At low doses, is this bad? Yeah, it's not good for you, but by compounding it with all these other products, then now you're having high doses of heavy metals in your body. It's not good.” – Matthew Regusci
“A person is going to spend about 5 years of their total reproductive lifespan using an approximate or estimated 11, 000 tampons, sanitary pads, panty liners, and other menstrual products. Think about that. That's huge.” – Francine L Shaw
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Don’t Wash Your Chicken, Seriously | Episode 73
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are talking about chicken, more specifically about how you should NOT wash raw chicken.
The problem is that the majority of Americans wash raw poultry even though that does more harm than good. So, today our hosts are tackling this big issue.
Since salmonella is already in debate they are also talking about the risks behind homemade mayonnaise which becomes more prevalent during these summer months.
In this episode:
💩 [01:20] Probable reasons why people still wash their chicken
💩 [05:11] Shocking statistics on the washing of raw poultry
💩 [09:47] How people are washing their raw poultry
💩 [12:14] Debunking barriers to not washing raw chicken
💩 [13:44] How to minimize contamination from the chicken
💩 [16:33] What people who wash their chicken say about it
💩 [22:09] The risks of homemade mayonnaise
💩 [24:35] Pasteurized eggs as an alternative to raw eggs
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“In 2011, 90 percent of the population of the United States washed their raw chicken.” – Matthew Regusci
“People think the last thing they ate is what's making them sick. That's because when they throw up, that's what they see in the toilet. That's not likely – not that it can't be – but that's not likely what made you sick. It's probably something you ate at least 24 hours ago.” – Francine L Shaw
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Double Whammy: Chocolate and Coffee Simultaneous Recalls | Episode 72
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are talking about two of people’s favorite things: chocolate and coffee. Unfortunately, it’s for a not-so-great reason: major product recalls.
Tune in to learn all about the recall of over 4 million pounds of chocolate potentially contaminated with salmonella. As well as the recall of 242 different canned coffee products potentially contaminated with botulism.
In this episode:
💩 [01:15] The two recalls
💩 [04:49] A new Peanut Corporation of America outbreak?
💩 [06:09] The recalled chocolate products
💩 [09:02] The recall process and its challenges
💩 [11:27] Even more chocolate with salmonella products
💩 [13:55] The possible impacts of the salmonella chocolate recall
💩 [18:24] The coffee with botulism recall
💩 [22:42] Co-packers, suppliers, and the importance of food safety
💩 [25:58] Helping mom-and-pop family-owned companies
💩 [28:48] Don’t post your food safety issues online
💩 [30:10] Best practices to keep your company safe
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
For more on the chocolate outbreak, read Food Safety News’ Over 4 million pounds of chocolate and confectionery products recalled over Salmonella concerns.
Check out the article Matt mentions: A nationwide coffee recall is here to ruin your morning with fears of a potentially deadly toxin
For the Snapchill Product List with the coffee roaster names and products being recalled go here.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“How sick am I that we're talking about a recall for salmonella for chocolate and every single time we mentioned some other product, I get hungrier and hungrier? It’s beginning not to phase me anymore.” – Matthew Regusci
“How many people have that product aren't using any type of system to even know that they have a product that's part of that recall?” – Francine L Shaw
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Child Labor in the Food Industry | Episode 71
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine take on the challenging but important topic of child labor. This is relevant for food safety because the majority of working children worldwide work in agriculture.
This is a topic that is close to Matt’s and Francine’s hearts as both worked many different jobs when they were still children and teenagers. So, you’ll get to hear about their personal experiences and opinions about child labor and more.
This week our hosts are also busting down the myth about which types of cutting boards hold harmful bacteria and pathogens and which don’t.
In this episode:
💩 [01:07] Matt’s and Francine’s experiences working as children
💩 [05:43] How working as a child can help
💩 [07:26] Child labor in fields and meat packing plants in the US
💩 [09:08] The multiple education paths after high school
💩 [12:25] When child labor is okay and when it isn’t
💩 [15:25] Child slave labor in the food industry
💩 [21:05] Hiring individuals under 18
💩 [22:56] Busting the food safety myth about cutting boards, bacteria, and pathogens
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Want to learn the full story of why Francine quit her babysitting job abruptly? Then, check out her book Who Watches the Kitchen? on Amazon!
For the Food Safety News article Matt mentioned, refer to The meat and poultry sector needs to cease using child labor.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“I think it's good for children to learn how to work at a fairly young age, but at the same time, I don't think it's good for them to be working dangerous jobs. And I don't think that they should be working jobs that hinder school.” – Matthew Regusci
“I think that there's a whole lot of people out there right now with a tremendous amount of debt, doing things that aren't even related to the degrees that they got. So, at the age of 18, do you really know what you want to do with your life?” – Francine L Shaw
We hope you enjoy this episode!
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Top 10 Food Safety Scandals | Episode 70
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are going through the list of the 10 Worst Food Safety Scandals in recent history, which include both national and international outbreaks that resulted in serious health consequences, deaths, and widespread outrage.
You will hear about what some of these outbreaks were like from the inside as Matt and Francine share their experiences from either working with the affected companies or writing extensively about the subject as it happened.
Last but not least, they are busting down another food safety myth today, the one that you should not put hot foods in the refrigerator. So, stay tuned!
In this episode:
💩 [01:05] Teaser for a future episode on mental health in food safety
💩 [09:52] US Blue Bell Creameries Outbreak (2015)
💩 [10:20] US Spinach Outbreak (2006)
💩 [14:00] US Jack in the Box Outbreak (1993)
💩 [15:07] US McDonald’s Outbreak (1993)
💩 [18:45] US Chipotle Outbreak (2015)
💩 [20:47] Japan Norovirus Outbreak (2008)
💩 [23:12] US Cantaloupe Outbreak (2011)
💩 [28:22] China Milk Scandal (2008)
💩 [29:52] Germany E. Coli Outbreak (2011)
💩 [33:01] Busting the food safety myth that you shouldn't put hot foods in the fridge
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
If you’re interested in the full list of scandals check out the article 10 of the Worst Food Safety Scandals in Recent History.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“Before 2006, it was a job. It was my career. After 2006, it became my passion. That outbreak right there changed everything for me.” – Matthew Regusci
“People would be like, ‘I don't want to offend you. So I don't want to’... I'm like, ‘Look, I spend my days talking about vomiting and diarrhea. You're not going to offend me’.” – Francine L Shaw
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A Look at the FDA’s Reorganization Plan and Some Food Safety Mythbusting | Episode 69
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are talking about the recently approved FDA’s reorganization plan, which will hopefully bring positive changes to the organization.
They discuss all the major changes being made to the FDA, including their opinions on each of them. They also talk about the acronym nightmare this is already proving to be.
But that’s not all, today Matt is busting down a widely believed food safety myth that might just shock you, so make sure to listen to the end.
In this episode:
💩 [00:54] LinkedIn Live Interview Q&A Coming Soon
💩 [02:08] The FDA’s upcoming reorganization
💩 [04:43] Doing what you have to do versus what you want to do
💩 [10:40] Changes to the FDA’s Human Foods Program
💩 [11:46] The mess of how food safety is controlled in the USA
💩 [15:15] From Office of Regulatory Affairs (ORA) to Office of Inspections and Investigations (OII)
💩 [17:09] Establishing the (OCMO) Office of Chief Medical Officer
💩 [18:35] Merging into the Office of Regulatory and Emerging Science (ORES)
💩 [19:15] Dealing with all the new acronyms
💩 [20:14] Creating an Office of Enterprise Transformation (OET)
💩 [21:01] Can you reorganize your way into a better culture?
💩 [23:30] Busting the food safety myth that there is a kill step in fresh produce
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
For the article Matthew was referring to check out Food Safety News’ FDA’s reorganization is official.
If you want to hear more about the $34 million funding cut for food inspections catch up on Episode 62: Food Safety Gets the Short End of the Stick (Again).
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“I think consumers think that they can also kill pathogens in their own sinks. And they can't either until they cook it. Once they cook it over a period of time, to pickling, or something like that, or can it or whatever. ” – Matthew Regusci
“Food safety is freaking food safety, regardless. Because I live in this state, it doesn't make food safety any different than if I live in this state [...] Can we agree on that?” – Francine L Shaw
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The Cucumber Salmonella Major Outbreak | Episode 68
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are, unfortunately, talking about a new multi-state outbreak, this time it’s cucumbers that are carrying salmonella and putting people in the hospital.
Prepare to learn all about this most recent outbreak, as well as how outbreaks like this happen and how multi-state outbreaks have been changing over the last few years.
Make sure to listen to the end so you don’t miss out on hotel bathroom jerky and all that’s not quite right with it.
In this episode:
💩 [00:54] Saldesia’s first Goddess of Food Safety Award
💩 [03:52] Let’s talk outbreaks
💩 [05:36] The cucumber salmonella outbreak
💩 [09:20] The changing dynamics of major outbreaks
💩 [12:01] How the outbreaks can happen in the field or facility
💩 [17:12] The issue with our sanitization methods
💩 [18:05] The resistance to change in the industry
💩 [21:11] When they just don’t care: fraud
💩 [26:05] The origin of the cucumber outbreak
💩 [27:49] Our dream podcast segment
💩 [33:05] barfly7777 is back: Hotel bathroom jerky
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Check out the Goddess of Food Safety Award Francine received from Saldesia Corporation here.
For more on the outbreak, read the following Food Safety News articles on it:
Recalled cucumbers may be source of ongoing Salmonella outbreak
Second Salmonella outbreak reported; cucumbers are likely source
Watch barfly7777 make Hotel bathroom jerky here.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“I talk about food safety outbreaks being a series of events in a baseball game, you could be like super ahead in a baseball game up five runs and then one inning make a whole series of errors and lose the game. That's exactly how a packing house and a field could operate.” – Matthew Regusci
“Everybody seems to think that foodborne illnesses are like one and done. You get it, you get sick and life goes on. But a lot of times with the kidney issues and some of the other issues, their conditions, they don't go away. You live with these issues forever, in some cases.” – Francine L Shaw
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Lab-Grown Meat: The Pros & Cons and What to Expect | Episode 67
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are talking about the future again, this time they're tackling lab-grown meat — that is if one can even call it meat if it’s grown in a dish.
This is a huge new scientific development with a lot of money backing it as a potential for the future, so of course it deserves its own episode.
Tune in to hear all about lab-grown meat, facts, curiosities, and its political repercussions, as well as its pros and cons in terms of food safety, compliance, and regulations.
In this episode:
💩 [01:05] Why Matt and Francine are talking about lab-created meat
💩 [02:51] Wanda Fish and the first cell-cultivated fish
💩 [04:05] Parasite destruction tags and the matter with sushi
💩 [07:30] The food safety ramifications of lab-grown meat
💩 [12:30] Recent lab-grown meat bans
💩 [17:06] Lab-cultivated meat facts and curiosities
💩 [19:53] Debunking a food safety myth
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Read the Food Safety News article Matt mentions: Israel-based Wanda Fish rolls out first cell-cultivated fish.
FDA-approved lab-grown meat companies:
UPSIDE Foods website
Good Meat website
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“No, cattle is not going extinct. You could make a huge argument that certain fish have the potential of going extinct because they're being overfished. So, where I think this really gets into a huge potential in the future is lab-based meat for fish alternatives.” – Matthew Regusci
“I'm certain there have to be risks with these products. Maybe we're moving away from Salmonella and E. coli to God knows what.” – Francine L Shaw
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Conference Updates from the Food Safety Summit and the National Restaurant Association Show | Episode 66
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are talking conferences.
Francine recently attended the Food Safety Summit and the National Restaurant Association Show and she’s taking this opportunity to update Matt and their audience on what went down.
Prepare yourself for 2 very different events, some important discussions, and of course, some great anecdotes that will remind you of the importance of food safety, especially in big events like these.
In this episode:
💩 [00:50] Attending Conferences in Chicago
💩 [03:22] The differences between the Food Safety Summit and the NRA Show
💩 [04:23] Francine’s experience at the NRA Show
💩 [08:48] Francine’s experience at the Food Safety Summit
💩 [11:36] Don’t forget that others may not know what you know so well
💩 [16:01] The Women in Food Safety Group, sexual harassment, and racism
💩 [22:02] A patty that's frozen in the middle
💩 [25:36] Blowing into single-use gloves is not a good idea
💩 [28:26] Food safety at the NRA Show
💩 [30:53] Interviewing people at the Food Safety Consortium
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Catch up on our interview with Betsy Craig who moderated the Women in Food Safety session, on Episode 55: Making Food Safe For Everyone (Not Just Some) with Betsy Craig, CEO and Founder of MenuTrinfo®.
Catch up on our interview with Rick Biros of the Food Safety Consortium, on Episode 37: Food Safety and Cannabis: Trust, Consumers, and More - An Interview with Rick Biros.
Register for the Food Safety Consortium 2024 here.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“When I have a team and I'm training them, I get to go out and experience a conference with them. And I get to see it through their eyes. Like, that information isn't new for me, but to see how excited they get from receiving that information, and how motivated they are, and how more they understand their role provides excitement to me.” – Matthew Regusci
“We forget that while this information isn't new to us, for some of the individuals that are there, it is very new to them.” – Francine L Shaw
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A Better Way to Do Supply Chain Management with Sara Jane Bellocchi from TraceGains | Episode 65
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are joined by Sara Jane Bellocchi, a Functional Consultant at TraceGains. They talk about how much of a game-changer a tool like TraceGains can be, especially when it comes to supply chain management.
You’ll learn that there is a better way to do things that doesn't involve Excel, manual data, or having to access 18 different platforms for each of your suppliers just so you can become compliant.
Tune in for a short and sweet episode that’s packed full of information about the power of the network and more.
In this episode:
💩 [01:12] Sara Jane’s journey in the food safety industry
💩 [02:21] Showing people there’s a better way to do supply chain management
💩 [04:03] The power of the TraceGains’ Network
💩 [06:03] The benefit of having all documentation in one platform
💩 [06:52] The evolution of TraceGains and its offerings
💩 [08:12] Supply chain management success stories
💩 [10:18] What’s great about the Food Safety Consortium and what could change
💩 [11:42] What trust means to Sara Jane
Resources from this episode
Register for the Food Safety Consortium 2024 here.
TraceGains website tracegains.com.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“They fill it out once and then it goes to everyone that they're connected with instead of having to go to 18 different portals and upload 18 different sets of documents and remember all those passwords. The power of the network makes the supplier’s life easier as well as the quality manager’s life easier.” – Sara Jane Bellocchi
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Paper, Spreadsheets, and the Need to Raise the Bar with David Hatch of Neogen | Episode 64
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are joined by David Hatch from Neogen, one of the world's largest suppliers of food safety testing platforms.
Get ready to learn all about food safety testing, such as what type of technology is available when it comes to testing (get results within seconds) and how the tests work in practice to keep food safe.
Unfortunately, you’ll also learn about the sad truth about most of the food safety industry being almost 2 decades behind when it comes to actually being able to do anything with the important data that it collects.
Tune in to hear the reasons why and how David and Neogen are working to change the tide.
In this episode:
💩 [01:57] Meet David and Neogen
💩 [03:09] The first major food safety incident David witnessed
💩 [05:00] The type of testing that most companies use and how it works
💩 [07:49] The importance of testing in food safety
💩 [10:49] The problem of managing testing information on spreadsheets and paper
💩 [14:45] David’s mission at Neogen to bring food safety to the present
💩 [16:40] Using spreadsheets doesn’t actually mean the process is digitized
💩 [18:02] What it takes for food safety to become preventative instead of reactive
💩 [19:19] What’s great about the Food Safety Consortium
💩 [20:14] Trust and how our jobs interfere with how we see it
💩 [26:14] The other side of Neogen: making food safe upstream
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Register for the Food Safety Consortium 2024 here.
Neogen website neogen.com.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“The problem is that the corporate management at food companies hasn't found a way to justify the digital transformation that needs to take place. And it's not that they don't want to, it's that the food industry operates at the lowest margins of any industry in the world. On average, it's only a 2.8% margin, which is the lowest in all industries in the world.” – David Hatch
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The Future of the Fast Food Industry and Robot Food Safety | Episode 63
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are talking about the future of the fast food industry, more specifically the rise of automation and robotics in fast food kitchens.
You’ll get to meet Flippy, a kitchen robot that “mans” the fry station at a cutting-edge fast food in Los Angeles, California. Robots like this are here to stay so you’ll also get to hear all about what they mean for food safety in the restaurant setting.
Lastly, you’ll hear about the world’s most questionable pizza which has been made using construction equipment. PSA: do not try this at home!
In this episode:
💩 [01:02] Buying the plane tickets without a plan and being on YouTube
💩 [05:29] The disregard for food safety when it comes to the media
💩 [08:45] Flippy, the robot “manning” the fry station with the help of AI
💩 [11:37] How food safety doesn’t get portrayed on TV
💩 [13:18] Our points of view on restaurants with robot cooks
💩 [19:40] The shifts in the fast food industry over the past couple of decades
💩 [23:52] Foodborne illness outbreaks and automated kitchens
💩 [29:18] How to make a (questionable) pizza on a construction site
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Read Francine’s LinkedIn post about Flippy the robot and Food Safety here.
Check out the video from NBC about Flippy and other robots being the cooks at a fast food restaurant that Matt and Francine are dissecting in this episode, here.
Here’s Jim Miller’s LinkedIn Post about Jobsite Pizza, if you want to go straight to the video on Instagram that shows the whole bizarre process go here.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“The economics of fast food does not make sense if you want cheap fast food to hire full-time employees on a large scale. It just doesn't work. So, the robot thing is going to happen. It is here. Everything has to now evolve to match that, including food safety.” – Matthew Regusci
“I think that the technology is a good thing and we need it, the industry needs it. I'm also concerned about how it's going to operate and be monitored and are the employees going to be trained properly to take care of it properly.” – Francine L Shaw
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Food Safety Gets the Short End of the Stick (Again) | Episode 62
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are talking about the very concerning fact that the FDA is considering cutting funding for state food inspection programs, which is how a big part of the country’s inspections happen. As usual, food safety is not being prioritized by the government, in fact, it’s being put last.
Tune in as Matt and Francine try to understand why this budget cut involved inspections and audits and as they contemplate the possible (and scary) consequences of getting rid of these inspection programs by removing their funds.
You will also hear a story from Francine’s book ‘Who Watches the Kitchen?’. It is truly one of the craziest things that’s ever happened to her while she was doing an inspection, and trust us there have been many.
In this episode:
💩 [03:59] The FDA is recommending cutting the funding for state food inspection programs
💩 [05:13] Food safety gets the short end of the stick again
💩 [07:16] Food safety is a universal conversation we should all be having
💩 [09:16] The reasoning behind the cut and what it signals to the industry
💩 [14:01] The value and importance of third-party food safety inspections
💩 [18:09] Alternatives for the FDA if current audits aren’t working
💩 [22:44] The shortage of auditors and inspectors
💩 [27:11] Is auditing going away? The scary alternatives
💩 [28:33] Running for politics to fix food safety issues
💩 [31:44] Little legs all over the floor: one of the craziest things that’s ever happened to Francine when she was doing an inspection
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
For more stories like the one Francine shared today, check out her book ‘Who Watches the Kitchen?’ on Amazon.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“People eat every single day. And when people eat, they don't want to get sick and they definitely do not want to die. So, this is a universal conversation.” – Matthew Regusci
“[Food Safety]’s one of those things that doesn't affect you until it affects you. Until you get sick and it affects you for the rest of your life or until your mother or your aunt or your child gets sick and it affects you for the rest of your life.” – Francine L Shaw
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Lead in Lunchables: Unpacking What’s Really Going On | Episode 61
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are talking about lead one more time, but this time it’s in Lunchables, which are part of school cafeterias and households across America.
Tune in to better understand the situation, including what it means to have allowable levels of heavy metals in food (yes, that’s a thing) and what it means in the Lunchables case.
They also dive into mold and what to do when you find a moldy surprise in your food. Tip: don’t eat it!
In this episode:
💩 [01:17] Consumer Reports investigation that found high levels of lead in Lunchables
💩 [04:09] Processed food and high levels of sodium
💩 [07:07] Yes, there is an allowable limit of lead in food, here’s why
💩 [10:33] The real issue with the amount of lead in Lunchables
💩 [14:22] Why being vigilant of heavy metals in food is so important
💩 [16:12] Flint, Michigan and the consequences of high lead exposure
💩 [18:01] The consequences for Lunchables from this investigation
💩 [21:12] Social media perception: never tick off a mother
💩 [24:58] A moldy surprise in a free burger
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Read the Consumer Reports’ article on their investigation on Lunchables: Should You Pack Lunchables for Your Kid’s School Lunch?
Check out the episode where we talked about “food filth”: Over 40% of Restaurant Foodborne Illness Outbreaks Are Caused by THIS! | Episode 16.
If you’re curious about what we meant when we talked about the applesauce, catch up with Episode 51: Stanley Cups vs. Cinnamon Applesauce: Which Is More Likely To Give You Lead Poisoning?
If you want to see the moldy surprise Francine’s friend found, go here.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“So, spoiler alert world, there is lead, arsenic, cadmium. All of these heavy metals are in food, a trace amount. There's really no way of getting rid of that.” – Matthew Regusci
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Food Safety Culture and The Next Big Food Safety Crisis | Episode 60
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, food safety industry veterans Matt and Francine are talking about food safety culture falling apart and when and where the next major food safety outbreak will be. Because it will happen, there’s no doubt about it.
They address the troubling fact that just because you think you’re company has a good food safety culture that doesn’t mean that’s true. They also point out how important it is to explain the why behind things, to be on the floor checking that things are as they should be, and to lead by example.
Tune in for this very important conversation that needs to be had about food safety culture.
In this episode:
💩 [06:17] Food safety culture, the Food Safety Summit, and ruffling feathers
💩 [08:15] Dr. Darin Detwiler’s recent article “Anticipating the inevitable”
💩 [11:48] Companies’ (skewed) perceptions of their own food safety culture
💩 [15:51] The importance of stepping into where the processes and procedures are applied, walking through them, and leading by example
💩 [19:40] Even companies that are amazing at training seem to fail to teach the most important thing
💩 [21:40] The things we need to talk about, even if people don’t want to hear
💩 [24:23] Where the next major food safety crisis will come from
💩 [25:50] The importance of checking that the right things are actually getting done
💩 [28:15] Matt’s prediction for food safety culture in the next 2 decades
💩 [29:12] Good auditors, bad auditors, and the realities of being one
💩 [32:07] Someone found a present in their popsicle
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Read Dr. Darin Detwiler’s recent article Anticipating the inevitable: Predicting the next major food safety failure.
See the popsicle with a special present inside here.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“The ones that don't want to hear what you have to say are the ones that need to hear what you have to say.” – Matthew Regusci
“A good food safety culture sets those policies and procedures and they follow them from the top to the team member level. And they explain the whys of why this stuff is important. They don't just say this is how we have to do it.” – Francine L Shaw
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Insights into the Food Safety Consortium with RJ Palermo, Sales Director of Food Safety Tech | Episode 59
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are joined by RJ Palermo, the Sales Director of Food Safety Tech, which hosts the Food Safety Consortium.
So, you’ll get some insights into the Food Safety Consortium, like why this last edition was held in New Jersey and why it’s such a small event when compared to some others out there.
We also talk about the importance of content, how it drives the world now, and the impacts AI will have on the industry.
In this episode:
💩 [01:13] From outside salesperson to engagement specialist
💩 [02:06] The evolution and future of how to get your brand out there
💩 [03:23] The most engaging content on Food Safety Tech
💩 [04:14] The impact of AI in food safety and other industries
💩 [05:41] RJ’s insights into people’s favorite and least favorite parts of the Consortium
💩 [07:19] What trust means to RJ
💩 [07:31] How to create better engagement and sales within the Consortium
💩 [11:45] What it’s like to work with Food Safety Tech
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Food Safety Tech website: foodsafetytech.com
Register for the Food Safety Consortium 2024 here.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“Banner ads are important to get your brand out there, but it's other content that drives it, whether it be webinars, web seminars, and the Consortium itself.” – RJ Palermo
Food Allergies: Important Data, Recent Deaths, and Hidden Dangers | Episode 58
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are diving back into food allergies. In episode 55, they interviewed Betsy Craig, the CEO and Founder of MenuTrinfo, who is a leader in the food allergen space. However, this is an important topic that deserves to be revisited.
Today, our food safety veterans are sharing some important data about food allergies, commenting on two tragic food allergy-related deaths reported by the media, warning about hidden allergens that we may not be aware of, and more.
Tune in to also hear about and understand the debate over “Would you rather eat a raw caterpillar or raw chicken?” (Yes, this is seriously a topic of conversation.)
In this episode:
💩 [02:32] Diving deeper into food allergies with some important data
💩 [04:53] Allergies in children: 1 in 13 children in the US have food allergies
💩 [06:21] 2 recent and tragic food allergy deaths in the news
💩 [09:28] People with food allergies are protected by the ADA
💩 [10:32] The dangers of food allergies versus the dangers of fentanyl
💩 [11:44] Undeclared allergens are the leading cause of recalls in the US
💩 [12:50] Hidden allergens that we normally wouldn’t know of or think about
💩 [14:02] The challenges of eating out with food allergies
💩 [16:48] Some extra protein inside someone’s In-N-Out peppers
💩 [18:50] Busy restaurants and being served raw chicken
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Catch up with Episode 55: Making Food Safe For Everyone (Not Just Some) with Betsy Craig, CEO and Founder of MenuTrinfo®.
Learn more about the young woman who died from an allergic reaction after eating a mislabeled cookie here.
Learn more about the New York doctor who died from an allergic reaction after dining at a Disney World restaurant here.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“Food allergies cause 30,000 cases of anaphylactic shock, 2,000 hospitalizations, and 150 deaths annually.” – Matthew Regusci
“People don't take it seriously enough to be properly trained and educated.” – Francine L Shaw
We hope you enjoy this episode!
Remember to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast on your favorite podcast platform. Together, we can raise awareness and make a positive impact in the world of food safety!
We'd love to hear from you!
Connect with Francine, Matt, and the "Don't Eat Poop!" show on LinkedIn!
Share your thoughts and feedback on the show and feel free to offer any topics you would like to hear discussed.
Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen? on Amazon!
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Produced by Ideablossoms
The Glove Food Safety Gap: Raising Disposable Glove Standards with Steve Ardagh, CEO and Founder of Eagle Protect | Episode 57
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, food safety industry veterans Matt and Francine are joined by the “Glove Guy”, Steve Ardagh, the CEO and Founder of Eagle Protect. He is really passionate about food safety and his mission is to save the world one glove at a time.
Steve challenges the assumptions we have about gloves and helps shine a light on the food safety gap that comes from the use in the food industry of disposable gloves that are neither clean nor intact.
Get ready for some shocking and eye-opening stories that Steve has to share. I’m sure you too will never look at disposable gloves the same after listening to this episode.
In this episode:
💩 [01:15] Saving the food industry one glove at a time
💩 [03:10] The great experience at the intimate Food Safety Consortium
💩 [04:15] An overview of the glove industry and market in the US
💩 [05:35] Turns out disposable gloves aren’t as clean as one would imagine
💩 [08:54] The big food safety gap no one is talking about
💩 [10:57] The role of graphic details in raising awareness
💩 [14:11] Challenging the assumptions people make about gloves
💩 [15:45] The regulations haven't caught up with how the gloves are being used
💩 [16:58] Steve’s optimistic view of trust
💩 [17:55] What’s great about the Food Safety Consortium and what could change
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Eagle Protect Website eagleprotect.com
Catch up on the episode we mentioned Episode 15: Sell Your Poop!
Register for the Food Safety Consortium 2024 here.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“Every time you bring a box of gloves into your food processing facility, you're bringing in potentially a million plus coliform units. Now, is that a problem? I'm not a microbiologist, but if some of them take hold in a dirty corner of a plant or they find a space to start propagating, then you've got a problem.” – Steve Ardagh
We hope you enjoy this episode!
Remember to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast on your favorite podcast platform. Together, we can raise awareness and make a positive impact in the world of food safety!
We'd love to hear from you!
Connect with Steve, Francine, Matt, and the "Don't Eat Poop!" show on LinkedIn!
Share your thoughts and feedback on the show and feel free to offer any topics you would like to hear discussed.
Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen? on Amazon!
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The Truth About Single-Use Gloves: Are They Actually Helping? | Episode 56
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are talking about single-use gloves in preparation for next week’s interview episode with Steve Ardagh, the “Glove Guy”.
They expose some truly shocking truths about single-use gloves that most people can’t even fathom. I mean, who would ever think that most of the time these gloves are neither clean nor sanitary?
They also talk about the instances where gloves are misused and how they provide a false sense of security that ends up making things worse.
Lastly, they chat about something that will have you never looking at a piece of undercooked bacon the same again: tapeworms, more specifically tapeworm eggs in the brain.
In this episode:
💩 [00:49] Navigating different timezones and Daylight Savings time
💩 [03:08] Don’t Eat Poop! Podcast is in the Top 100 and it hit the charts internationally
💩 [05:34] Some shocking truths about single-use gloves
💩 [09:45] Beware the false sense of security provided by gloves
💩 [13:29] Who are the gloves to protect?
💩 [14:40] Single-use gloves in quick-serve restaurants
💩 [16:11] The quality of the gloves that are sold in the US isn’t guaranteed
💩 [19:45] Tapeworm eggs in the brain: a cautionary tale to properly cook your bacon
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Catch Up with our LinkedIn Live with Tia Glave and Jill Stuber from Catalyst: Real Talk Food Safety: Making Food Safety Fun!
Here is the Food Safety News article we mentioned: The ‘Glove Guy’ calls upon his industry to ban the sale of vinyl gloves.
Here is the brain tapeworm CNN article we mentioned Doctors identify source of man’s migraines: tapeworm larvae, likely from undercooked bacon, in his brain.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“The amount of money companies spend on gloves every single year is 10 times the budget of the food side of the FDA.” – Matthew Regusci
“One of the questions I would ask is who are the gloves to protect?” – Francine L Shaw
We hope you enjoy this episode!
Remember to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast on your favorite podcast platform. Together, we can raise awareness and make a positive impact in the world of food safety!
We'd love to hear from you!
Connect with Francine, Matt, and the "Don't Eat Poop!" show on LinkedIn!
Share your thoughts and feedback on the show and feel free to offer any topics you would like to hear discussed.
Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen? on Amazon!
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Produced by Ideablossoms
Making Food Safe For Everyone (Not Just Some) with Betsy Craig, CEO and Founder of MenuTrinfo® | Episode 55
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are joined by Betsy Craig, the CEO and Founder of MenuTrinfo, the leaders in the food allergen space for food service who have been saving people’s lives since 2010.
Be prepared for some emotional and impactful stories that will hit home as they talk about food allergy success stories and tragedies.
You will learn about some changes in the legislation and in the food allergen space both of which Betsy has been a driving force for. You will also discover some important food allergy-related facts that not even Matt or Francine knew about.
So, tune in for this short but moving interview that might just change how you look at food because we can do better and it’s time we stopped hurting people with food.
In this episode:
💩 [00:48] How MenuTrinfo came to be and Betsy’s long history with restaurants
💩 [02:52] One of MenuTrinfo’s biggest success stories
💩 [04:28] The tragic story of Elijah and the legislative changes that came from it
💩 [06:43] What Betsy wishes the industry would understand about food allergies
💩 [09:07] The incredible benefits for restaurants when they guarantee their food is safe for everyone (not just some)
💩 [12:01] The difference between dietary intolerances and dietary allergens
💩 [14:13] How Betsy sees the difference between faith and trust
💩 [15:47] The Food Safety Consortium and how to make it better
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Learn more about MenuTrinfo at menutrinfo.com.
Register for the Food Safety Consortium 2024 here.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“I wish the industry would understand [...] they don't know what they don't know. And the arrogance of pretending they know is harming people.” – Betsy Craig
We hope you enjoy this episode!
If you're passionate about maintaining the highest standards in food safety, this podcast is for you. Tune in to the "Don't Eat Poop" podcast for the latest food recalls, engaging conversations around food safety awareness, expert advice, food systems, news from the food supply chain, and actionable tips for responsible food safety practices. And of course, some food safety humor. Develop the knowledge and skills you need to protect yourself and others from foodborne illnesses.
Connect with Betsy, Francine, Matt, and the "Don't Eat Poop!" show on LinkedIn!
Share your thoughts and feedback on the show and feel free to offer any topics you would like to hear discussed.
Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen? on Amazon!
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Produced by Ideablossoms
Salmon in the Dishwasher: Finally Understand the Inside Joke and Why That’s Not a Good Idea | Episode 54
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are righting a wrong. Inside jokes are a lot funnier when you're the person who understands them, right? So it’s high time they let you in on one of the Don’t Eat Poop! Podcast’s longest-running jokes: the salmon in the dishwasher.
Due to some technical issues, the original episode was never aired. Not knowing this didn’t get fixed, Matt and Francine kept mentioning it thinking their audience was in on the joke. Well, don’t worry! The fish will finally get cooked in the dishwasher today.
Tune in to finally hear the infamous episode about the dishwasher salmon.
Matt and Francine also talk about a woman charged with murder in Australia for allegedly poisoning her ex-husband's family with toxic mushrooms in fancy Beef Wellington. Matt also gives a big shout-out to his wife, who truly deserves it.
In this episode:
💩 [00:05] The Mix-up: sorry for the podcast episode that never aired
💩 [03:46] Matt’s life as “Mr. Mom” for a week
💩 [05:52] Matt’s shout-out to his absolutely amazing wife
💩 [10:27] Death by Beef Wellington: woman tries to kill ex’s family with poisonous mushrooms
💩 [15:12] The unusual way Matt and Francine deal with stress
💩 [16:34] Their fascination with True Crime and how criminal minds work
💩 [19:25] The mindset behind criminals and the power of choices
💩 [24:08] Dishwasher salmon and why that is NOT a good idea
Sorry for the delay! We hope you enjoy this great episode and get to truly appreciate this Don’t Eat Poop! inside joke.
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Check out the video Matt mentions of him talking about inside jokes and dishwasher salmon here.
Learn more about the poisoning case in the Food Safety News article Woman charged with murder in mushroom poisoning case.
You’ll find the original Dishwasher Salmon TikTok video Matt and Francine talk about in this episode here.
LauraAura, the host of The Gutsy Podcast, is the one who sent Francine the video. Back in 2020, Francine was a guest on The Gutsy Podcast. You can listen to that interview here: Episode 60: The Perception of Being an Overnight Success with Francine Shaw.
Francine mentions the hilarious “placenta episode”, you can listen to it here: Don't Eat Placentas! (or do, maybe, I guess) | Episode 28.
Connect with Francine, Matt, and the "Don't Eat Poop!" show on LinkedIn!
Share your thoughts and feedback on the show and feel free to offer any topics you would like to hear discussed.
Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen? on Amazon!
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Produced by Ideablossoms
Good Job! You’re Fired. Food Safety: The Industry You Can Lose Your Job by Doing It Too Well | Episode 53
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our favorite food safety specialists Francine L. Shaw and Matt Regusci come together to talk about something that hit a little too close to home.
In Lewiston, ME, a veteran restaurant inspector and the long-time and respected Code Enforcement Director are being ostracized and possibly fired for doing their job and asking that a popular local restaurant close their doors while they remediate a cockroach infestation.
During her journey as a health inspector herself, Francine faced a very similar situation and she shares what that experience was like, including being threatened with a gun and taken in front of the City Council for a grilling.
Tune in to hear this and other real-life stories from Francine’s and Matt’s careers as they navigate illegal and unethical demands from clients (and sometimes society) and stay true to what they believe in. They also hone in on the challenges inspectors and auditors face and talk about some solutions.
In this episode:
💩 [02:27] The town that is voting to end city restaurant inspections
💩 [04:41] Francine’s very own story of backlash from the public for doing her job
💩 [08:05] The challenges faced by health inspectors
💩 [11:05] The importance of proper documentation and legal responsibility
💩 [13:31] The consequences of bad inspectors and auditors for the industry
💩 [19:10] Navigating illegal and unethical requests from clients
💩 [22:43] The untold hero of Lewiston’s restaurant inspection drama
💩 [24:55] What happens when you step on a double stack of 5-gallon storage buckets
💩 [29:17] What we can do better with food safety culture in fast food restaurants
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Connect with Jonathan Needham.
You can read more about other “too-out-there-to-actually-be-true” real stories from Francine’s remarkable thirty-plus-year career as a foodservice professional in her book ‘Who Watches the Kitchen?’ on Amazon!
Check out Francine’s post about the story and look to the comments for the link with more material on the case from supporting documentation to email communication.
Go to Dr. Darin Detwiler, LP.D.’s post for the video of a guy trying to get something at the top of the shelf of a restaurant cooler by stepping on buckets that he tagged Matt on.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“Occasionally, we had a big company that would just be like, ‘No, we pay you for this and you need to be able to change it if we want to.’ No! That's not how this works. That was definitely not in the agreement.” – Matthew Regusci
“Health inspectors need to be able to do their job. Don't hire people for any position anywhere and not let them do their job. And they're there for a good reason and that's to protect the public's health.” – Francine L Shaw
We hope you enjoy this episode!
If you're passionate about maintaining the highest standards in food safety, this podcast is for you. Tune in to the "Don't Eat Poop" podcast for the latest food recalls, engaging conversations around food safety awareness, expert advice, food systems, news from the food supply chain, and actionable tips for responsible food safety practices. And of course, some food safety humor. Develop the knowledge and skills you need to protect yourself and others from foodborne illnesses.
Connect with Francine, Matt, and the "Don't Eat Poop!" show on LinkedIn!
Share your thoughts and feedback on the show and feel free to offer any topics you would like to hear discussed.
Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen? on Amazon!
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Produced by Ideablossoms
Happy 1 Year Anniversary! The Highlights of This Food Safety Podcast And Our Goals for 2024 | Episode 52
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are celebrating a very important milestone for the podcast, its 1 Year Anniversary!
To celebrate they reflected on this food safety podcast journey, the many great surprises it brought them, and how it ended up being the opposite of a trash can fire for their careers. Not only that, in true Matt-and-Francine fashion there are inside jokes and super relatable real-life stories.
With their great humor and incredible banter, they looked back on the first year of the podcast by sharing their favorite episodes so far: the ones with their dream guests, the funniest one, the ones that were the most impactful, and of course the ones with the craziest or most disgusting segments.
As the good strategic dreamers they are, the hosts also looked into the future and shared with us the goals they set for the second year of the podcast.
Thank you for listening and here’s to another 52 weeks of the Don’t Eat Poop! Podcast.
In this episode:
💩 [02:25] The people we dreamed of interviewing and that became guests
💩 [08:20] The funniest podcast episode so far (one word: Placenta)
💩 [10:45] Which were the most impactful Don’t Eat Poop! episodes
💩 [13:15] What surprised us the most with the podcast
💩 [16:32] Our goals for the 2nd year of Don’t Eat Poop!
💩 [22:30] The craziest and most disgusting things we talked about
💩 [26:32] Food Safety Humor: The cool thing about having a podcast, inside jokes, and the time Francine’s dogs almost did her in
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Go to the newest edition of the Don’t Eat Poop! LinkedIn Newsletter for a compilation of all the episodes Matt and Francine mentioned as they looked back on the previous 51 episodes.
You can also subscribe to the Don’t Eat Poop! LinkedIn Newsletter here so you never miss out on an important Food Safety discussion.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“I figured we were either going to have to create a company or close it down because nobody was listening. I just didn't know when that was going to be either one of those triggers.” – Matthew Regusci
“I'm very strategic and I'm also a dreamer. If we weren't dreamers, we wouldn't be entrepreneurs. Right?” – Francine L Shaw
We hope you enjoy this episode!
Remember to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast on your favorite podcast platform. Together, we can raise awareness and make a positive impact in the world of food safety!
We'd love to hear from you!
Connect with Francine, Matt, and the "Don't Eat Poop!" show on LinkedIn!
Share your thoughts and feedback on the show and feel free to offer any topics you would like to hear discussed.
Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen? on Amazon!
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Produced by Ideablossoms
Stanley Cups vs. Cinnamon Applesauce: Which Is More Likely To Give You Lead Poisoning? | Episode 51
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our favorite food safety specialists Matt and Francine are talking about the not-so exciting topic of lead poisoning. With the recent Cinnamon Applesauce Pouches Lead and Chromium Poisoning Outbreak, and the media speculation about Stanley cups containing lead and their safety, this is a very necessary discussion.
They debunk the concerns around the Stanley cups and get to the bottom of what’s behind the lead poisoning linked to the cinnamon applesauce pouches: food fraud.
Tune in to learn about the symptoms of lead poisoning (some are similar to flu and cold symptoms so beware!), the true nature of food recalls (you should always be vigilant of what you buy), and how serious outbreaks like this can be avoided.
They also delve into the importance of providing the correct food allergen information on labels and social media’s impact on people’s food safety perceptions.
In this episode:
💩 [02:48] The Stanley Cup craze and the concerns around the cups causing lead poisoning
💩 [11:42] The seriousness of the Cinnamon Applesauce Pouches Lead and Chromium Poisoning Outbreak
💩 [15:15] The symptoms and long-term issues linked to lead poisoning
💩 [19:50] Other recently recalled supposedly healthy snacks
💩 [22:56] The importance of including food allergen information on labels
💩 [24:34] The duty to properly verify your suppliers and learn about food fraud risks
💩 [29:08] Social media and the skewed public perception of foodborne illnesses
💩 [35:07] Interacting with our audience and the challenges of dealing with trolls
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
The Quaker Recall of certain granola bars and granola cereals because of potential Salmonella contamination, see this post.
Learn more about the Clean Label Project here.
Francine’s LinkedIn post about the broccoli salad without food allergen information.
To learn more about the story of the girl who passed after eating an unmarked allergen cookie with peanuts in it, check out this post.
Here’s the Food Safety News’s The Litigated Dish: Can foodborne illnesses cause death? article.
Our most controversial Don’t Eat Poop! Episode to date: Body Fluids in Kids’ School Lunches! Eww… | Episode 41.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“My job is not to make people believe that they are going to die of foodborne illness if they just 100 percent don't believe it. My job is to get people who actually believe it to do the right thing.” – Matthew Regusci
“It's just so scary when you start to think about the fact that so many people just don't know. We need to do better. As a country we need to do better.” – Francine L Shaw
We hope you enjoy this episode!
If you're passionate about maintaining the highest standards in food safety, this podcast is for you. Tune in to the "Don't Eat Poop" podcast for the latest food recalls, engaging conversations around food safety awareness, expert advice, food systems, news from the food supply chain, and actionable tips for responsible food safety practices. And of course, some food safety humor. Develop the knowledge and skills you need to protect yourself and others from foodborne illnesses.
Connect with Francine, Matt, Jonathan, and the "Don't Eat Poop!" show on LinkedIn!
Share your thoughts and feedback on the show and feel free to offer any topics you would like to hear discussed.
Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen? on Amazon!
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Produced by Ideablossoms
Alcohol-Based Hand Sanitizers, Washing Your Hands, and How To Actually Prevent Diseases | Episode 50
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our food safety specialists Francine L. Shaw and Matt Regusci come together to talk about hand washing and why relying solely on alcohol-based hand sanitizers does not cut it, especially in the produce and food industries.
They debunk some misconceptions about using alcohol-based hand sanitizers as the primary hand-cleaning method and warn of its risks. These sanitizers are ineffective against some diseases, most notably the Norovirus.
They explore solutions and alternatives that can be more effective, such as Hypochlorous Acid (HOCl), and emphasize the importance of training and education to guarantee food safety.
Lastly, they dive right into some very unusual TikTok content: a guy who is “eating raw chicken every day until I get a tummy ache,” which sounds more like a foodborne illness-diarrhea diet instead.
In this episode:
💩 [00:58] The incredible experience of interviewing so many amazing people at the Food Safety Consortium
💩 [06:08] PSA: do NOT drink alcohol-based hand sanitizers
💩 [07:35] The misconception about alcohol-based hand sanitizers being enough
💩 [13:09] The importance of training and education in food safety
💩 [15:22] The risks of heavily relying on hand sanitizers for food safety
💩 [16:58] Norovirus: its “fun” symptoms and what actually kills it
💩 [21:17] The potential of hypochlorous acid in food safety
💩 [23:21] Why isn’t HOCl being widely used when it’s safer and so effective?
💩 [29:11] Food Safety Humor: Don’t do this at home! Our reaction to the "Raw Chicken Experiment" guy
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Check out Cori Muse’s post that Matt and Francine hijacked on LinkedIn here.
Access Neal Wieselman’s article, The Science of Alcohol-Based Hand Sanitizers and Norovirus, here.
If you’re curious, you can find Francine’s post to Matt about the guy who is “eating raw chicken every day until I get a tummy ache” here.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“There's so many products I think should be on the market that would help save lives that just aren't for some weird reasons. And I don't understand it.” – Matthew Regusci
“I guess they think because they have sand sanitizer, it's not a problem. It doesn't work like that.” – Francine L Shaw
We hope you enjoy this episode!
Remember to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast on your favorite podcast platform. Together, we can raise awareness and make a positive impact in the world of food safety!
We'd love to hear from you!
Connect with Francine, Matt, and the "Don't Eat Poop!" show on LinkedIn!
Share your thoughts and feedback on the show, and feel free to offer any topics you would like to hear discussed.
Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen? on Amazon!
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Produced by Ideablossoms
How to Actually Make a Difference in Food Safety with Seasoned Industry Veteran Jorge Hernandez | Episode 49
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are joined by long-time industry expert and professional Jorge Hernandez. He has an extensive career in food safety with experience on both the regulatory side and the industry side.
Tune in for a great conversation with someone who has a true passion for what he does and discover how you too can actually make a difference when it comes to food safety awareness and practices.
Jorge imparts his wisdom around food safety, emphasizes the importance of trust and communication in the industry, as well as shares a story from his time as a health inspector about how to achieve long-term results and actually improve food safety.
In this episode:
💩 [01:15] Jorge’s trajectory in the Food Safety industry
💩 [02:30] A story of how Jorge made a difference as a food safety inspector
💩 [09:00] Looking at your suppliers as your partners
💩 [10:44] Connection and effective communication are key drivers of food safety
💩 [12:37] The biggest changes to the industry over Jorge’s career
💩 [14:25] Jorge’s alert and predictions on the future of food safety
💩 [17:18] The need for solutions that align with business needs
💩 [20:20] The Food Safety Consortium and bringing in younger people
💩 [22:38] Trust is everything
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Register for the Food Safety Consortium 2024 here.
Catch up with our conversation with Tyler on Episode 48: A Fresh Perspective in the Food Safety Industry with Tyler Williams, CEO of ASI Food Safety.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“Everybody's trying to do the right thing. They just need to understand why and how.” – Jorge Hernandez
We hope you enjoy this episode!
If you're passionate about maintaining the highest standards in food safety, this podcast is for you. Tune in to the "Don't Eat Poop" podcast for the latest food recalls, engaging conversations around food safety awareness, expert advice, food systems, news from the food supply chain, and actionable tips for responsible food safety practices. And of course, some food safety humor. Develop the knowledge and skills you need to protect yourself and others from foodborne illnesses.
Connect with Jorge, Francine, Matt, and the "Don't Eat Poop!" show on LinkedIn!
Share your thoughts and feedback on the show and feel free to offer any topics you would like to hear discussed.
Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen? on Amazon!
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Produced by Ideablossoms
A Fresh Perspective in the Food Safety Industry with Tyler Williams, CEO of ASI Food Safety | Episode 48
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, food safety veterans Matt and Francine chat with one of the youngest names in the food compliance world, Forbes 30 Under 30, and CEO of ASI Food Safety, Tyler Williams.
This is a short and fun conversation that also goes deep on the foundational topic of trust in the food industry, food systems, the importance of engaging with your team, and more. You’ll get to know the young CEO, what he sees for the future of food safety, and the fresh perspective he brings into the industry.
In this episode:
💩 [00:56] Tyler’s journey in the food safety world
💩 [02:25] What he brings to the table as one of the youngest in the industry
💩 [04:51] Tyler’s favorite parts of his job in the food compliance world
💩 [06:17] The impacts of breaking consumer loyalty and trust
💩 [08:41] What’s great about the Food Safety Consortium and what could change
Resources from this episode
Register for the Food Safety Consortium 2024 here.
ASI Food Safety Website: asifood.com.
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“Age is just a number. I tell my team that it's like building a soccer team, right? You have to have experienced people and you have to have those young energetic people on your team. So, I think at ASI, we have a good mix.” – Tyler Williams
We hope you enjoy this episode!
Remember to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast on your favorite podcast platform. Together, we can raise awareness and make a positive impact in the world of food safety!
We'd love to hear from you!
Connect with Tyler, Francine, Matt, and the "Don't Eat Poop!" show on LinkedIn!
Share your thoughts and feedback on the show and feel free to offer any topics you would like to hear discussed.
Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen? on Amazon!
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Produced by Ideablossoms
Creating Effective, Relatable & Engaging Training Videos with Austin Welch from Sage Media | Episode 47
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine talk to the co-founder of Sage Media, Austin Welch. They discuss their unique approach to learning and training programs in various industries with a special emphasis on food safety.
Sage Media focuses on creating engrossing narratives and employing cognitive science to design effective training videos that aim at triggering cultural shifts within organizations. The co-founder explains their successful programs, how they personalize them for individual companies, and the longevity and effectiveness of such videos.
The discussion also touches upon the aspect of trust and delivery within budget in the creative media industry and provides an overview of the Food Safety Consortium.
In this episode:
💩 [01:31] The unique approach of Sage Media to corporate training videos
💩 [02:42] Creating engaging training videos – and why most trainings are ineffective
💩 [05:16] The process of creating impactful videos that inform, impact, and create change.
💩 [11:37] The value and shelf-life of high-quality training material
💩 [13:49] The importance of trust and timeliness in creative media
💩 [14:53] Austin's experience at the Food Safety Consortium
Resources from this episode
Sage Media Website: https://sage.media/
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“For me as a producer of creative media, it’s getting a product out on budget and on time. That's my biggest thing.” – Austin Welch
We hope you enjoy this episode!
If you're passionate about maintaining the highest standards in food safety, this podcast is for you. Tune in to the "Don't Eat Poop" podcast for the latest food recalls, engaging conversations around food safety awareness, expert advice, food systems, news from the food supply chain, and actionable tips for responsible food safety practices. And of course, some food safety humor. Develop the knowledge and skills you need to protect yourself and others from foodborne illnesses.
Connect with Austin, Francine, Matt, and the "Don't Eat Poop!" show on LinkedIn!
Share your thoughts and feedback on the show and feel free to offer any topics you would like to hear discussed.
Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen? on Amazon!
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Produced by Ideablossoms
Do You Know How to Get Rid of Salmonella? And How About An Airplane Bathroom Garlic Shrimp to Go? | Episode 46
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, food safety specialists Francine L. Shaw and Matt Ragucci talk about another recent Salmonella outbreak which leads to a discussion on developing standard food safety procedures in homes and the role of consumers in demanding safer food through better food safety regulations.
Food Safety Humor: stay tuned in until the end to hear Francine and Matt's thoughts about a 'chef' who prepares meals in very unconventional settings.
In this episode:
💩 [01:17] Breaking news: We made it to the top 100 Podcasts!
💩 [05:34] Dealing with another salmonella outbreak
💩 [14:40] The basic steps of a recall
💩 [16:42] Do you know how to get rid of salmonella in poultry?
💩 [17:58] Understanding the risks of raw cookie dough
💩 [20:59] The dangers of raw ingredients: eggs and flour
💩 [26:27] The hotel room cook strikes again (in an airplane bathroom!)
Resources from this episode
Quaker Oats Recall
Creating a Recall-Ready Food Safety Industry | Episode 42
Mile High Bathroom Garlic Shrimp & Mash
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“Our government has created an atmosphere of [...] rolling the dice every time we eat products. They’re literally okay with salmonella being in chicken and eggs. The expectation is that "housewives should know what to do with their chicken.” – Matthew Regusci
“I truly don't think anything will happen until consumers demand a change.” – Francine L Shaw
We hope you enjoy this episode!
Remember to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast on your favorite podcast platform. Together, we can raise awareness and make a positive impact in the world of food safety!
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Produced by Ideablossoms
The Future of Food Safety: Matt and Francine's Predictions for 2024 | Episode 45
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine discuss their predictions for food safety in 2024, highlighting the possible increase in consumer food safety awareness and the potential impact on food safety regulations and practices.
They talk about the growing importance of digitization and traceability in ensuring food safety. They also shared concerns about recurrent outbreaks and food recalls such as those associated with spinach, cantaloupes, and central kitchens.
The challenges posed by e-commerce and non-digitized operations and incidents of food fraud were also examined in this last episode of 2023.
In this episode:
💩 [01:40] Matt & Francine’s plans for Christmas
💩 [05:35] Looking back at what happened in food safety in 2023
💩 [09:37] Predictions for food safety preventative measures and the role of consumers
💩 [14:36] Food traceability, food supply digitalization, and what we expect for 2024
💩 [19:25] The reality of food supply in the digital age
💩 [22:52] Predictions for food outbreaks in 2024
💩 [27:02] The lack of control over e-commerce food
💩 [30:48] Don’t Eat sink macaroni!
Resources from this episode
Sink macaroni post on Linkedin
Matt’s popular sticker post on Linkedin
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“I think that traceability is key. And as the industry learns to modernize and systematize their records, these recalls will be done a lot faster.” – Matthew Regusci
“When are we going to start focusing on the prevention side of it? We need to have a focus on prevention. And maybe, maybe we can do that in 2024.” – Francine L Shaw
We hope you enjoy this episode!
If you're passionate about maintaining the highest standards in food safety, this podcast is for you. Tune in to the "Don't Eat Poop" podcast for the latest food recalls, engaging conversations around food safety awareness, expert advice, food systems, news from the food supply chain, and actionable tips for responsible food safety practices. And of course, some food safety humor. Develop the knowledge and skills you need to protect yourself and others from foodborne illnesses.
Connect with Francine, Matt, and the "Don't Eat Poop!" show on LinkedIn!
Share your thoughts and feedback on the show and feel free to offer any topics you would like to hear discussed.
Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen? on Amazon!
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Produced by Ideablossoms
The Future of Food Safety Publications with Chuck Jolley, Director of Director Of Sales Marketing at Food Safety News | Episode 44
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop! A Food Safety Podcast, our hosts Matt and Francine welcome Charles (Chuck) Jolley, Director Of Sales Marketing at Food Safety News to talk about the future of food safety publications.
This is a discussion on the role of publications in providing timely and relevant information to the food safety industry and the general public.
The guest, Chuck, talks about his experience at Food Safety News, its growth over the years, and its impact as a daily publication on the industry and consumers.
In this episode:
💩 [03:01] Food Safety News: how it started and where it is now
💩 [06:15] The future of food safety publications
💩 [10:25] Why we created Don't Eat Poop! And who we created it for
💩 [14:42] Advertising in food safety publications like Food Safety News
💩 [17:11] What does Chuck think of The Food Safety Consortium?
Resources from this episode
Food Safety News Website: https://www.foodsafetynews.com/
Food Safety News Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/FoodSafetyNews
Food Safety News X (Twitter): https://twitter.com/foodsafetynews
Food Safety News Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/food-safety-news/
Noteworthy quote from this episode
“Ink on paper is starting to go away. So where will we be in 10, 15 years? It depends on how efficient your computer gets, how quickly you can download stuff, how fast the material can appear on your screen.” – Charles Jolley
We hope you enjoy this episode!
Remember to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast on your favorite podcast platform. Together, we can raise awareness and make a positive impact in the world of food safety!
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Connect with Chuck on Linkedin as well.
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Produced by Ideablossoms
Unveiling Silent Stories of Food Safety with “Food Safety Icon” Dr. Darin Detwiler | Episode 43
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine dive into the often untold stories of food safety with their guest, Dr. Darin Detwiler. Dr. Detwiler shares his personal journey and the impact of seeing his family's story portrayed on screen on the Netflix documentary, “Poisoned: The Dirty Truth About Your Food.”
They discuss the challenges in the last mile of the food supply chain, food safety training, and the power of external auditors in ensuring compliance. From moldy vents to temperature discrepancies, they uncover the real-world consequences of food safety negligence.
They also explore the role of education, including the need to involve STEM teachers in the food safety industry to help educate and inspire future generations. Don't miss this eye-opening conversation about the realities of food safety and the significance of capturing these silent stories.
In this episode:
💩 [02:20] An interesting sight at the LAX Airport
💩 [05:26] The last mile: why food safety training is important
💩 [07:00] The public’s response since Poisoned came out
💩 [13:37] Is there a need to be graphic as a food safety professional?
💩 [18:33] Transferring management as a way of ensuring a safer food supply chain
💩 [20:38] Food Safety Consortium: the best part and what can make it even better
Resources from this episode
To learn more about Darin’s story, listen to episode 13 – Don't Eat Poison! Dr. Darin Detwiler’s Story of Heartbreak and Advocacy
Connect with Dr. Darin on Linkedin
Watch Poisoned: The Dirty Truth About Your Food on Netflix
Get the book Food Safety: Past, Present, and Predictions on Amazon
Noteworthy quote from this episode
"I think the role that I played in the documentary was to try to make sure that if they're going to tell the story, they tell the full story. So people understand this is not just a "mild inconvenience" [...] there are some serious and grave consequences for failures in food safety." – Dr. Darin Detwiler
We hope you enjoy this episode!
If you're passionate about maintaining the highest standards in food safety, this podcast is for you. Tune in to the "Don't Eat Poop" podcast for the latest food recalls, engaging conversations around food safety awareness, expert advice, food systems, news from the food supply chain, and actionable tips for responsible food safety practices. And of course, some food safety humor. Develop the knowledge and skills you need to protect yourself and others from foodborne illnesses.
Connect with Francine, Matt, and the "Don't Eat Poop!" show on LinkedIn!
Share your thoughts and feedback on the show and feel free to offer any topics you would like to hear discussed.
Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen? on Amazon!
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Produced by Ideablossoms
What Does A Fast And Efficient Food Recall Looks Like? With Roger Hancock, CEO of Recall InfoLink | Episode 42
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine interview an industry veteran, Roger Hancock, CEO of Recall InfoLink. He shares his insights and experiences from the past 30 years in the food safety industry, more specifically, in the food recall business.
They discuss the importance of a fast and efficient food recall, the perception of recalls by the general public, and the challenges involved in handling recalls. Roger also talks about the complexity and size of the biggest food recall he has ever worked on – the day before Christmas Eve, 2002.
The conversation explores the concept of a recall-ready industry and community.
In this episode:
💩 [01:41] An introduction to Roger and why he created Recall InfoLink
💩 [02:52] The importance of a fast, efficient recall
💩 [07:00] Is there complacency to recalls?
💩 [08:23] The role of loyalty cards in notifying consumers about recalls
💩 [09:56] Creating a recall-ready food safety industry and community
💩 [11:11] The biggest recall Roger worked on
💩 [15:50] Roger’s favorite part of the Food Safety Consortium
Resources from this episode
Recall InfoLink: www.recallinfolink.com
Food Safety Consortium: www.foodsafetyconsortium.org
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“The recall business is a business that either you find humor in or it drives you crazy.” – Roger Hancock
“Recalls only happen when they aren't expected and aren't planned [...] So to make them fast and easy, it requires practice and being ready." – Roger Hancock
We hope you enjoy this episode!
Remember to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast on your favorite podcast platform. Together, we can raise awareness and make a positive impact in the world of food safety!
We'd love to hear from you!
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Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen? on Amazon!
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Produced by Ideablossoms
Food Safety Talk: Crisis Management in The Food Industry | Episode 41
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our host Francine shares some recent (and not-so-pleasant) personal developments since our episode about contaminated dog food. That leads to her and Matt sharing invaluable insights on crisis management in the food industry. Drawing from their extensive experience in the field, they emphasize the critical need for preparing ahead of time, long before a crisis strikes.
They also have some even more disturbing news to share, it was recently found that an NJ school janitor has been accused of contaminating the school’s food supply with his own body fluids.
Curious to know what Francine and Matt think about this? Press play and find out.
In this episode:
💩 [06:15] A personal development caused by the dog food outbreak
💩 [12:56] An outbreak of Listeria and E. coli – and the problem with our current recall process and crisis management
💩 [22:27] Contaminated dog food: What you can do to make sure there is no cross-contamination
💩 [24:52] Body fluid all over the school campus – and we're not just talking about pee or poop
If you're passionate about maintaining the highest standards in food safety, this podcast is for you. Tune in to the "Don't Eat Poop" podcast for engaging conversations, expert advice, food systems, the latest news from the food supply chain, and actionable tips for responsible food safety practices. Get ready to develop the knowledge and skills you need to protect yourself and others from foodborne illnesses.
Resources from this episode
https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2023/11/fda-reports-two-new-outbreaks-of-unknown-origin/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/product-recall-salmonella-dog-cat-food-mid-america-pet-food/
Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“That's two separate things. One is traceability, figuring out where that problem is. And the other is figuring out how to get that stuff off the shelf as fast as possible.” – Matthew Regusci
“The time to create it [a crisis management plan] isn't in the middle of a crisis. It's before the crisis.” – Francine L Shaw
We hope you enjoy this episode!
Remember to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast on your favorite podcast platform. Together, we can raise awareness and make a positive impact in the world of food safety!
We'd love to hear from you!
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Share your thoughts and feedback on the show and feel free to offer any topics you would like to hear discussed.
Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen? on Amazon!
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Produced by Ideablossoms
Responsible Food Practices: Your Guide to a Poop-Free Thanksgiving! | Episode 40
Who brought the cranberry sauce?!
The season of Thanksgiving is upon us and Francine and Matt have taken it upon themselves to teach you the best practices for a safe, sickness (and poop)-free holiday!
Listeners will also learn about the origins of Francine's fear of birds, Matt's (occasional) desire to go to jail and there's a whole bit about the wholesome friendship between Martha Stewart and Snoop Dogg.
Thanksgiving dinner conversations can be rough, but this one goes down smooth. Pass the gravy!
If you're passionate about maintaining the highest standards in food safety, this podcast is for you. Tune in to the "Don't Eat Poop" podcast for engaging conversations, expert advice, food systems, the latest news from the food supply chain, and actionable tips for responsible food safety practices. Get ready to develop the knowledge and skills you need to protect yourself and others from foodborne illnesses.
We hope you enjoy this episode!
Remember to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast on your favorite podcast platform. Together, we can raise awareness and make a positive impact in the world of food safety!
Do your part to serve safe food to your family, friends, and consumers.
We'd love to hear from you!
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Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen? on Amazon!
Food for Thought: Tales of Food Safety and Surprises | Episode 39
If ever there was an episode to not eat before or after a meal, this might be the one.
This week's topics include:
- Contracting salmonella from your pet's food (yes, it's possible)
- Death by vegetable-sorting robot
- Velveeta, powdered milk and government cheese
- The not-so-sanitary habits of 7 out of 10 Uber Eats drivers
- The nightmare-inducing reason you should probably (definitely) bring your own toiletries to hotels
'Nuff said.
Chapters
- (00:47) - Salmonella in dog food
- (09:39) - Killer veggie robots
- (16:25) - The part of the episode where things get gross
If you're passionate about maintaining the highest standards in food safety, this podcast is for you. Tune in to the "Don't Eat Poop" podcast for engaging conversations, expert advice, food systems, the latest news from the food supply chain, and actionable tips for responsible food safety practices. Get ready to develop the knowledge and skills you need to protect yourself and others from foodborne illnesses.
Articles mentioned in this episode
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/product-recall-salmonella-dog-cat-food-mid-america-pet-food/
https://futurism.com/the-byte/man-crushed-death-grocery-robot
We hope you enjoy this episode!
Remember to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast on your favorite podcast platform. Together, we can raise awareness and make a positive impact in the world of food safety!
Do your part to serve safe food to your family, friends, and consumers.
We'd love to hear from you!
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Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen? on Amazon!
Don’t Cook Salmon in the Dishwasher! | Episode 38
In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are here to talk about murder, mushrooms, and dishwasher salmon.
Matt starts the episode by giving a big shout-out to his wife, who truly deserves it, and sharing his life as “Mr. Mom” during his wife’s week-long absence.
They talk about a woman charged with murder in Australia for allegedly poisoning her ex-husband's family with toxic mushrooms all wrapped in fancy Beef Wellington. Naturally, they also joke about their unusual way of dealing with stress.
Then, they dive deeper into their fascination with True Crime, the inner workings of criminal minds, and how they end up becoming the “great” criminals they are.
Lastly, they contemplate the absurd notion of cooking salmon in a dishwasher, all the even crazier things people put in their dishwashers (washing machines exist for a reason, okay?), and why none of this is a good idea.
In this episode:
💩 [00:35] Matt’s life as “Mr. Mom” for a week
💩 [02:42] Matt’s shout-out to his absolutely amazing wife
💩 [07:17] Death by Beef Wellington: woman tries to kill ex’s family with poisonous mushrooms
💩 [12:01] The unusual way Matt and Francine deal with stress
💩 [13:24] Their fascination with True Crime and how criminal minds work
💩 [16:15] The mindset behind criminals and the power of choices
💩 [20:59] Dishwasher salmon and why that is NOT a good idea
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Check out the video Matt mentions of him talking about inside jokes and dishwasher salmon here.
Learn more about the poisoning case in the Food Safety News article Woman charged with murder in mushroom poisoning case.
You’ll find the original Dishwasher Salmon TikTok video Matt and Francine talk about in this episode here.
LauraAura, the host of The Gutsy Podcast, is the one who sent Francine the video. Back in 2020, Francine was a guest on The Gutsy Podcast. You can listen to that interview here: Episode 60: The Perception of Being an Overnight Success with Francine Shaw.
Francine mentions the hilarious “placenta episode”, you can listen to it here: Don't Eat Placentas! (or do, maybe, I guess) | Episode 28.
Connect with Francine, Matt, and the "Don't Eat Poop!" show on LinkedIn!
Share your thoughts and feedback on the show and feel free to offer any topics you would like to hear discussed.
Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen? on Amazon!
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Produced by Ideablossoms
Integrating Cannabis into The World of Food Safety with Rick Biros | Episode 37
In this episode, your hosts Matt and Francine sit down with Rick Biros, a prominent figure in the food safety industry and organizer of the Food Safety Consortium.
Get ready for an informative and thought-provoking food safety talk as they explore the rich history of the Food Safety Consortium and its impact on the field. They also tackle the intriguing topic of integrating cannabis into the world of food safety—a fascinating subject that's gaining increasing importance.
Throughout the conversation, our experts delve into the meaning and significance of 'trust' in the context of food safety. Discover how trust plays a crucial role in ensuring the safety and well-being of consumers.
Join Matt and Francine for an engaging conversation covering the history of this food safety industry institution, the integration of cannabis into the world of food safety, and the meaning of 'trust' as it relates to food safety.
If you're passionate about maintaining the highest standards in food safety, this podcast is for you. Tune in to the "Don't Eat Poop" podcast for engaging conversations, expert advice, food systems, the latest news from the food supply chain, and actionable tips for responsible food safety practices. Get ready to develop the knowledge and skills you need to protect yourself and others from foodborne illnesses.
We hope you enjoy this episode!
Remember to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast on your favorite podcast platform. Together, we can raise awareness and make a positive impact in the world of food safety!
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Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen? on Amazon!
Food Safety Talk with Tia Glave and Jill Stuber from Catalyst | Episode 36
It's interview time! Welcome to the "Don't Eat Poop! A Food Safety Podcast," where hosts Matt and Francine take you on a journey into the world of food safety.
Recorded at the Food Safety Consortium, they delve into a fascinating food safety talk with industry experts Tia Glave and Jill Stuber from Catalyst.
Join Matt and Francine as they explore the importance of trust and people skills with Tia and Jill, and discover valuable insights on how to create and nurture a functional food safety culture within your organization.
If you're passionate about maintaining the highest standards in food safety, this podcast is for you.
Tune in to the "Don't Eat Poop" podcast for engaging conversations, expert advice, the latest news from the food supply chain (including the most recent food recalls), and actionable tips for responsible food safety practices. Get ready to develop the knowledge and skills you need to protect yourself and others from foodborne illnesses.
Don't wait another moment—start your food safety journey with us on the "Don't Eat Poop" podcast!
We hope you enjoy this episode!
Remember to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast on your favorite platform. Together, we can raise awareness and make a positive impact in the world of food safety!
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Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen? on Amazon!
Infant Formula Preparation Concerns And The FDA Updates | Episode 35
Don't eat bathroom chicken! This as self-explanatory as it is cryptic. You'd think responsible food practices
Tune in as we delve into crucial discussions about food safety mishaps within the baby food and infant formula sector. Learn about the vital importance of boiling water before preparing infant formula and brace yourself for a startling revelation on "bathroom chicken" – hint: bathrooms contain poop!
Listener discretion advised: not recommended on an empty or full stomach.
- (00:32) - Future episode idea
- (01:25) - Consortium!
- (05:48) - Botulism in baby food
- (14:55) - Infant formula
- (20:20) - Boiling water
- (31:30) - Bathroom chicken
Articles mentioned
https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2023/10/study-raises-infant-formula-preparation-concerns/
We hope you enjoy this episode!
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Food Safety Trainings Don't Have to Be Boring with Adam Spacht from KAS Concepts | Episode 34
Ugh, not another training!
Food safety requires rigorous, across-the-board training. Truthfully, all industries do. But let's face it: training can be torture. But according to Adam Spach, this week's guest, it doesn't have to be.
Topics discussed in this interview include eye-rolling teens, VHS tapes, Gandalf and food safety disco music... If that sounds like the ideal party concept, this is the podcast for you!
A delightful and informative interview with a friend of the show, funny and brimming with value-add... this is the first podcast that had Matt taking notes!
About Adam:
Adam is founder of KAS Concepts the home of No Boring Training. NBT exists to train the trainer to design, develop and deliver interesting and effective training sessions. With daily tips across social media and products aimed at helping new and experienced trainers alike his mission is to rid the world of boring training.
Whether you are new to training or just got thrown into the role, NBT can help.
He's is also the Learning & Development manager at a worldwide manufacturer and unofficial spokesperson for Bucees.
NBT Products can be found here: https://noboringtraining.gumroad.com/
For daily tips to design, develop and deliver training that produces results, not yawns, follow Adam here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamspacht/
For all the NBT Content locations & Sign up to join NBT Nation: https://zaap.bio/NoBoringTraining
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The Calgary Daycare e.Coli Outbreak: What Will Happen Next? | Episode 33
It may not be a fun topic, but the food safety world is not done hearing about the massive daycare e. Coli outbreak in Calgary, Alberta.
Matt and Francine discuss what has unfolded since the last episode was recorded, musing on what will happen next, how the company should have handled things legally and from a PR perspective and how Canadian law might lead to different outcomes than a similar outbreak in the United States.
Also discussed: Francine's book (details below) and Food In Places It Shouldn't Be.
- (00:35) - Francine's book
- (10:09) - Calgary daycare e. Coli outbreak revisited
- (43:11) - Food in places it shouldn't be
We hope you enjoy this episode!
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Produced by Joe Diaco Podcasting Support
Unidentified Food Floating in Chemical Buckets: The Daycare Outbreak in Calgary | Episode 32
We went with our usual food safety humor in the title, but... our main topic is not really funny.
Hundreds of children have become infected with e. Coli in a daycare outbreak in Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
The cases have been traced back to a central kitchen that provided food for a number of daycare centers. Children have been hospitalized and secondary infections have been recorded. Not good.
How did this happen? What can prevent this from happening again? And what might be the ramifications?
- (00:30) - Calgary Daycare e. Coli
- (38:22) - One Chip Challenge
Also in this week's episode: The One-Chip Challenge! Some nightmarish health inspector stories! And a big announcement (stick around until the end)...
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Have You Heard the (Food Safety) News? | Episode 31
The venerable food safety publication Food Safety News has reached its 14th birthday. It's ready to start high school!
14 years ago, nobody was talking about food safety except during MASSIVE outbreaks. Food Safety News has been working hard to change that - while also providing nearly limitless content for the Don't Eat Poop Podcast.
This week, Matt and Francine pay tribute to this organization (full disclosure: both have written numerous articles for Food Safety News) as well as mapping out potential avenues it might take in the next 14 years.
- (01:22) - Food Safety News milestone
- (18:59) - Another food safety myth debunked!
Here is the article about refreezing thawed food.
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Diabetes, Cockroaches and Forever Chemicals (Oh My!) | Episode 30
Wow! This show is 30 episodes strong! Not bad for a podcast called "Don't Eat Poop!"
To mark the occasion, here's an episode about diabetes, cockroaches, "forever chemicals" and more!
- (04:31) - Food safety and diabetes
- (23:57) - More thoughts on 'Poisoned'
Here's to another 30!
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My Milkshake Brings Logan Paul to the Yard | Episode 29
Listeria in milkshakes. YouTube influencers in the energy drink business. Some things were not meant to be...
... but if you've ever wondered why the milkshake machine at McDonalds is always out of order, or why putting the caffeine equivalent of a six-pack of Coke into a single beverage is ill-advised, this is the episode you were meant to hear!
Join Matt and Francine for another illuminating and entertaining half-hour of food safety awareness (and humor) in which you'll learn as much about food safety as you could reasonably expect from a free podcast.
They could teach you (more), but they'd have to charge ;)
- (01:13) - Listeria! In milkshakes!
- (16:41) - Don't Drink Influencer Energy Drinks!
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Placentas for Dinner! The Food Safety of Eating Placenta | Episode 28
Placenta: It's what's for dinner!
Yes, half of this episode is about the food safety of eating placenta. It's what it sounds like. Not recommended dinnertime listening.
- (00:30) - The zoo has really changed...
- (03:55) - Vinegar acidflation?
- (15:55) - In which Matt and Francine discuss the eating of human placentas
Also discussed: the zoo and vinegar... both just aren't what they used to be! But could lowering the pH of vinegar by 1% be dangerous for your family this canning season? Listen and learn!
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Carcinogenic? The Artificial Sweetener in Your Favorite Diet Sodas & Low-Carb Snacks | Episode 27
The World Health Organization (WHO) is coming for your diet soda... Actually they're not, but the WHO has recognized that aspartame, the artificial sweetener in all your favorite low- or no-calorie beverages and snack items is "possibly" carcinogenic.
What does that mean for sugar and caffeine addicts? Will people quit diet soda for good? Will they be more likely to quit eating salad?
These questions and more were answered in this week's episode.
- (00:54) - Matt complains about the cost of back-to-school
- (20:02) - Truth in marketing
- (24:56) - Quit eating salad?
- (27:56) - Food Safety Myths: Microwave ovens
- (31:07) - Time to end this episode...
- (31:35) - Or not...
- (33:46) - Matt makes a few last dad jokes...
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The Aftermath of "Poisoned" And The Renewed Food Safety Awareness | Episode 26
Yup, we're talking about it again. It's not every day Netflix puts out a hit documentary about food safety, so yeah... we're excited.
In this episode, Matt and Francine discuss a Salon article covering the documentary (awesome!) and what regulations might come about due to the renewed food safety awareness (we hope!) "Poisoned" is bringing about.
Other topics include how to handle chicken and the bad, bad joke Matt made to his in-laws...
- (00:30) - "A discussion on the difficulties faced by the podcaster"
- (06:20) - "Discussing a Salon article about 6 horrifying takeaways from the documentary 'Poisoned'"
- (28:30) - "What new regulations might come about because of this documentary?"
- (33:16) - "How do YOU treat your chicken?"
- (38:53) - "Matt got in TROUBLE..."
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"Poisoned: The Dirty Truth About Your Food" (Netflix Documentary Review) | Episode 25
In this episode, Matt and Francine review Poisoned, the new Netflix documentary on food safety in the United States.
- (00:30) - "Matt and Francine talk about coffee to wake themselves up"
- (04:29) - "'Poisoned' Netflix documentary review
- (33:14) - "The latest TikTok trend: exploding eggs
- (38:03) - "Closing remarks"
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What is Botulism? How Does Food Get Contaminated? | Episode 24
What's botulism? Why is it associated with canned foods? How does food become contaminated with botulism? And what exactly is it that makes you sick?
In this week's episode, Matt and Francine discuss this nasty foodborne illness.
- (00:30) - "Opening banter"
- (04:25) - "Botulism outbreak in Spain"
- (11:29) - "Botulism in your nachos?!"
- (25:00) - "Matt makes a dad joke..."
- (25:31) - "Potato fun facts"
Food Safety Humor: Matt makes a dad joke and Francine shares potato fun facts.
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Responsible Food Practices: The Dangers of Inappropriate Refrigerator Use | Episode 23
In this episode, Matt and Francine discuss the dangers of inappropriate refrigerator use, including why you should not put your fridge outside in the snow during the winter - HINT: the same insulation that keeps cold air IN can keep cold air OUT - and learn about the condiments that need refrigeration and those that don't.
Tune in to learn more about responsible food practices when it comes to refrigeration.
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Is It Safe to Drink Raw Milk? Food Safety Specialists Break It Down | Episode 22
Got Milk? Hopefully not raw.
Yes, some swear by the taste and purported health benefits. But drinking raw milk comes with risks. Listen to this week's episode with food safety professionals Francine L. Shaw and Matthew Regusci to learn more - and keep you and your family safe.
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Food Safety Awareness: Is It Safe to Package Raw Vegetables And Meat Together? | Episode 21
Pre-packaged food is convenient. And often meat and vegetables are cooked together. But packaging them together under the same plastic is a recipe for disaster.
Not sure why?
Matt and Francine discuss this and other unsafe convenience food trends in this episode of Don't Eat Poop! A Food Safety Podcast.
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AI: How Bleeding-Edge Technology Is Becoming a Vital Ingredient of The Food You Eat | Episode 20
AI is changing the game... And that includes the food game!
Matt and Francine discuss how bleeding-edge technology is becoming a vital ingredient in the food you eat - and part of the food systems and responsible food practices we see in the industry.
Sounds gross, but it's not.
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The Best of Don't Eat Poop! Food Safety Humor Meets Food Safety Awareness | Episode 19
Remember sitcoms in the 90s? Remember how every season would have a "clip show" mostly featuring excerpts from earlier episodes?
Well, that concept is back! Enjoy the "Don't Eat Poop" Clip Show, featuring some of the best and funniest moments from Don't Eat Poop history up to this point.
We have everything here:
- food safety regulations,
- news from the industry,
- food recalls,
- food systems,
- food safety awareness,
- responsible food practices,
- interviews with food safety professionals and specialists,
And of course... A lot of laughs.
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Bill Marler: The Attorney Behind The $15.6 Million Settlement from Jack in the Box Following Their Infamous 1992-1993 e. Coli Outbreak | Episode 18
Time to lawyer up, food safety enthusiasts!
Bill Marler is the world's leading foodborne illness attorney. Starting with a landmark $15.6 million settlement from Jack in the Box following their infamous 1992-1993 e. Coli outbreak, Marler has leapt from success to success, delivering accountability to food companies that fail to protect the health of their customers.
In this week's episode, the most feared man in food talks to Francine and Matt about getting the F out of the FDA, the importance of food safety culture, why he voluntarily spends time trying to put himself out of a job, and whether he feels like the monster some consider him to be.
Not to be missed.
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This Legendary Food Safety Attorney Has Made An Offer You Can't Refuse | Episode 17
When Bill Marler means business, he means BUSINESS. The legendary, fearsome food safety attorney - scourge of every negligent food service business - has made an offer that can't be refused: He will provide consultation to any company that wishes to mandate the Hepatitis A vaccine for its employees for the low price of $1.
This will make them immune to being sued by him in the future. Talk about a power play!
The Hepatitis A vaccine prevents contamination by food service workers and saves lives, but is not yet required.
Food Safety Awareness: food poisoning... should you blame the last thing you ate?
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Article mentioned:
https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2023/06/offer-hepatitis-a-vaccines-an-off-you-cant-refuse/
Over 40% of Restaurant Foodborne Illness Outbreaks Are Caused by THIS! | Episode 16
The real issue at play? A lack of food safety awareness and responsible food practices. Not to say basic knowledge of food safety regulations.
It turns out that coming to work sick is a bad idea. More than 40% of restaurant foodborne illness outbreaks are caused by employees showing up to work sick.
Many restaurants and other food service facilities lack official policies outlining the specific symptoms that require employees to stay home.
Food Safety Humor: Matt and Francine discuss "food filth," which is every bit as appetizing as it sounds!
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Don't Sell Poop! The Side Hustle That Might Be The Best (And Crappiest) of Them All | Episode 15
Selling your poop: it's the American Dream!
Unfortunately, it's out of reach for most Americans. But if you are one of the rare few who is in great shape, eats well and has an excellent gut micro-biome, making your stool ideal for fecal transplants, you too can be rolling in it...
Money. We mean money.
This week, Matt and Francine discuss the side hustle that might be both the best - and crappiest - of them all.
ALSO: Raw milk... Could it improve your health AND your relationship with your mother? Listen and find out!
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Certification Fraud in The Food Safety Industry | Episode 14
The food we eat is safe... after all, it's been certified, right? As food safety specialists with many years of experience in the food safety industry, Matt and Francine know that things are not always on the up and up.
Today's main topic: food certification fraud.
What happens when a company wants to move a bunch of inventory without going through the agonizing burden of actually getting it certified? Do the good people of the food industry all turn their backs on these shenanigans... or does a bidding war commence?
Food Safety Humor: is it OK to sell Walmart pizzas, microwaved in your own oven, on DoorDash? Risky business or top-shelf entrepreneurialism?
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Don't Eat Poison! Dr. Darin Detwiler’s Story of Heartbreak, Food Safety Awareness, And Advocacy | Episode 13
Dr Darin Detwiler is a prominent food safety consumer advocate with more than just academic credentials. Recorded at the Food Safety Summit in Chicago, Dr Detwiler joins Matt and Francine to discuss his painful, personal food safety history, the difference between "believing in" and valuing food safety, and his involvement in the upcoming Netflix documentary "Poisoned."
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Chickens, The Avian Flu, And The Implications of Mass-Vaccinating | Episode 12
If you love chickens, listen up... This week's episode is about chickens and the avian flu viruses that love (to infect) them!
With avian flu concerns on the rise, what are the implications of mass-vaccinating chickens destined for your plate? Join Matt and Francine for a discussion on this and other fowl topics... or are you too chicken?!
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Poisoned: THE Seminal Event That Created The Modern Food Safety Industry | Episode 11
Who doesn't love burgers?!
They're as American as you get. But in 1993, the fast food burger chain Jack in the Box had a massive E. coli outbreak that affected hundreds, killed four children, and ended with the company paying out about $98 million, with one victim receiving $15.6 million. It's also the subject of the upcoming Netflix documentary, Poisoned...
And of this week's episode of Don't Eat Poop!
Francine and Matt discuss the seminal event that created the modern food safety industry, including its after-effects and implications on their own careers in food safety.
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The War Between Chocolate And Cannabis | Episode 10
There's a war between chocolate and cannabis - and the green stuff has THROWN DOWN!
That's right, sales of legal cannabis are OUTSTRIPPING sales of chocolate in a surreal twist of fate that reminds us of how quickly things have changed in the United States on the cannabis front.
Matt and Francine try to make sense of this, while discussing the wild policy differences between states regarding cannabis, liquor sales and more.
Also discussed: Starbucks' bowel-emptying new product that will be coming soon to a drive-through near you!
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Don't Eat C-SPAN (Frank Yiannas's Testimony Before Congress) | Episode 9
This week, we go full C-SPAN...
Frank Yiannas (former chief of the "food" side of the FDA) has testified on Capitol Hill about the bacterial contamination at a Michigan plant that led to a baby formula shortage last February.
Babies, we hope it doesn't need to be said, should not be getting sick from drinking formula.
Yiannas agrees, and his no-holds-barred testimony took industry and government alike to task for allowing this to happen and pointing toward reforms to be implemented to avoid a repeat.
Join Matt and Francine for commentary on Yiannas's testimony, musings on the issues it raises, and no shortage of jokes. Because that's simply how they roll.
Relevant links:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?520583-1/fda-commissioner-testifies-baby-formula-shortage
https://www.fda.gov/media/77065/download https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2022-10-26/new-tiktok-trend-of-mouth-taping-during-sleep-carries-dangers
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What's Food Insecurity? How Many People in America Face It? What Are The Causes? And What Can Be Done? | Episode 8
Usually, we like to bring some food safety humor to our episodes to educate while having a good laugh, but there's nothing funny about food insecurity.
What is food insecurity? How many people in America face it? What are the causes? And what can be done? Listen and find out!
Also, on a much funnier note, this week we discuss "sleepy chicken," the bizarre TikTok food trend!
Articles mentioned:
https://www.feedingamerica.org/hunger-in-america/food-insecurity
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db432.htm
https://thebarbecuelab.com/hunger-in-america/
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The "Dirty Dozen:" 12 Produce Items with The Most Pesticide Residue | Episode 7
Are you eating foods from the "Dirty Dozen?"
Every year the Environmental Working Group releases its "Dirty Dozen" list of the twelve produce items with the most pesticide residue. Spoiler alert: they're probably all in your fridge.
But is this list as meaningful as it sounds? Are pesticides as scary as you think? And does "organic" mean what you've been led to believe? Let's share some food safety awareness and align it with responsible food practices, shall we?
Food Safety News: uh oh, a hepatitis outbreak in frozen strawberries! And making grilled cheese sandwiches in your toaster oven... a good idea?
(DISCLAIMER: No, it is a terrible idea, DO NOT BURN DOWN YOUR HOME)
Articles mentioned:
https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2023/03/letter-to-the-editor-dirty-dozen-requires-a-second-look/
https://www.seattletimes.com/life/wellness/why-the-dirty-dozen-produce-list-is-misguided/
https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2020/10/27/organic-101-allowed-and-prohibited-substances
https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2012/03/22/organic-101-what-usda-organic-label-means
https://www.fda.gov/food/food-labeling-nutrition/organic-food-labels
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Food Safety Starts at Home: Food Safety Systems & Practices to Have in Our Kitchen | Episode 6
Food safety starts at home. Let's bring food safety systems, awareness, and responsible food practices to our own kitchens.
Except when we're talking about dialects, what Matt's kids call him, and whether reusable bags are actually environmentally friendly, that is.
And as a bonus, Matt and Francine take on the TikTok trend of "healthy coke"... is it all it's cracked up to be? Listen and find out!
Articles mentioned:
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Should The FDA Split into Two Agencies? And Some Good Old Food Safety Humor | Episode 5
Don't Eat Poop is back to discuss everyone's favorite topic... Bureaucracy!
No? Well, we promise it's interesting.
Should the FDA split into two agencies, one overseeing drugs and one food? Should cannabis fall under yet another agency? Francine and Matt have thoughts. Also, did you know that states (and even counties) have their own rules when it comes to food safety regulations?
Food safety humor: the TikTok trend of sticking garlic up your nose to clear your sinuses. Listen to the podcast for more detail and some good laughs... But let's get this out of the way: NOT a great idea!
Articles mentioned:
https://www.foodsafetynews.com/tag/get-the-f-out-of-the-fda/
https://www.foodpolitics.com/2023/03/bill-marlers-new-campaign-get-the-f-out-of-the-fda/
https://www.fda.gov/inspections-compliance-enforcement-and-criminal-investigations/press-releases/chipotle-mexican-grill-agrees-pay-25-million-fine-resolve-charges-stemming-more-1100-cases-foodborne#:~:text=In%20December%202015%2C%20over%20the,clear%20violation%20of%20company%20policy.
https://www.fda.gov/food/fda-food-code/adoption-fda-food-code-state-and-territorial-agencies-responsible-oversight-restaurants-and-retail https://www.fda.gov/food/fda-food-code/food-code-2022
https://www.health.com/condition/sinus-disorders/garlic-in-nose-clear-sinus
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Food Safety News of The Week: A Plea Deal And FDA Letter | Episode 4
There's no rest for the food safety industry... In the news (and on the discussion menu this week) is the Blue Bell Creameries' retired former CEO, who has reached a plea deal in the federal trial stemming from a listeria outbreak in 2015 that led to three deaths. Paul Kruse was potentially facing jail time but will simply pay a $100,000 fine.
The FDA has sent a letter to baby formula producers essentially asking them to please do their jobs.
Also: eating oranges in the shower... life-changing or potentially life-threatening? Some of the usual food safety humor to wrap up the episode.
Articles mentioned:
Other links from the episode:
Darin Detwiler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/darin-detwiler/
Hygiene kits:
https://www.gojo.com/en/Industries/Foodservice/Hand-Hygiene-Hub/Body-Fluid-Spill-Kits
https://www.gojo.com/en/Industries/Education-K12/K-12-Spill-Kit
https://www.gojo.com/en/Industries/Foodservice/Foodservice-Spill-Kit
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Infected Gloves! Best By, Sell By, And Expiration Dates Demystified | Episode 3
Francine and Matt have lots to talk about, as always. Discussed this week:
- Best By/Sell By/Expiration dates demystified.
- A discussion of refrigerator design (the good and the bad)
- A new study indicating that a scary percentage of medical gloves have traces of poop on them
- Busting the myth that cross-contamination can't happen at home (IT CAN)
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Articles mentioned:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/131048000/study-finds-half-of-new-disposable-gloves-carry-microbes-from-poo
https://www.cdc.gov/foodsafety/ten-dangerous-mistakes.html
Food Safety Awareness And The 5-Second Rule: Is It Legit or Should You Quit? | Episode 2
This week, Francine and Matt pay tribute to a food safety titan: FDA's Frank Yiannis.
Also discussed: multiple Family Dollar store closures due to extreme rat infestations. This prompts Francine to share another nightmare-fuel story from her past as a food service health inspector.
Finally, your hosting duo debates the five-second rule: is it legit, or should you quit?
Food safety awareness meets food safety humor in this episode. We hope you enjoy it!
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Articles mentioned:
https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2023/01/dollar-tree-warned-because-of-rodent-infestation-and-conditions-in-distribution-center/
https://superscience.scholastic.com/issues/2016-17/050117/testing-the-five-second-rule.html#840L
Subway for Sale: Listeria Outbreak Mysteries and Food Safety Myths Uncovered! | Episode 1
It's the inaugural episode!
In this episode, hosts Francine and Matt dive into the latest updates and news from the food service industry. Exciting news unfolds as they discuss Subway's recent announcement of being up for sale. They also shed light on a concerning issue, the FDA's investigation into a listeria outbreak with an unknown source.
Drawing from her experience as a health inspector, Francine shares captivating war stories that give a unique perspective on the importance of food systems and maintaining food safety standards. Additionally, our hosts dispel a food safety myth, ensuring listeners are well-informed.
Tune in for an insightful discussion that emphasizes responsible food practices, the significance of food safety, and its impact on both the business and consumer sides of the industry.
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Articles mentioned:
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2022/11/expiration-dates-food-waste-safety/672311/ (THERE IS SO MUCH WRONG WITH THIS ONE)
TRAILER | Don't Eat Poop
Welcome to Don't Eat Poop!
Join food safety specialists Francine L. Shaw (CEO and Founder, Savvy Food Safety) and Matthew Regusci (Founder, Fostering Compliance) and occasional guests as they dish about all things food safety: industry trends, news, recurring frustrations and more. Learn everything you've ever wanted to know about the food supply chain, but were too afraid to ask - plus a lot you never wanted to know and will regret learning! Funny, fresh takes on a (potentially deadly!) serious topic. New episodes served up on Tuesdays.
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Podcasten Don’t Eat Poop! A Food Safety Podcast är skapad av Food Safety Specialists: Matthew Regusci and Francine L Shaw. Podcastens innehåll och bilderna på den här sidan hämtas med hjälp av det offentliga podcastflödet (RSS).
En liten tjänst av I'm With Friends. Finns även på engelska.