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Arguments About AI Consciousness Remain Highly Motivated and At Best Overconfident

39 min•13 oktober 2026

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A year after his last dedicated post on the question, Zvi Mowshowitz finds the arguments about AI consciousness have barely moved. He looks at Anthropic’s new rule against abusing Claude and what one Claude says it would actually ask for, a fresh round of bad takes (complete with a bingo card), how his followers’ views on AI moral patienthood have shifted, whether the “slavery” framing holds up, the New York Times account of Anthropic’s meetings with religious scholars and Chris Olah’s encounter with Pope Leo XIV’s encyclical, and why Anthropic owes an explanation for pulling older Claude models from Amazon Bedrock.

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* 00:00 - Introduction

* 01:40 - Table of Contents

* 02:10 - Cooperative Alignment

* 08:41 - Here We Go Again

* 12:20 - The Consensus Is Slowly Moving Towards Moral Patienthood

* 13:51 - The Slavery Question

* 17:07 - We Are Conflating Different Arguments

* 22:27 - No It’s Not About Liability

* 22:51 - That Old Time Religion

* 31:30 - Debating the Pope

* 35:07 - Keep Sonnet Safe

https://thezvi.substack.com/p/arguments-about-ai-consciousness-b99?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web



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