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Mike Israetel vs. Liron Shapira — AI Doom Debate

135 min • 8 maj 2025

 Dr. Mike Israetel, renowned exercise scientist and social media personality, and more recently a low-P(doom) AI futurist, graciously offered to debate me!

00:00 Introducing Mike Israetel

12:19 What’s Your P(Doom)™

30:58 Timelines for Artificial General Intelligence

34:49 Superhuman AI Capabilities

43:26 AI Reasoning and Creativity

47:12 Evil AI Scenario

01:08:06 Will the AI Cooperate With Us?

01:12:27 AI's Dependence on Human Labor

01:18:27 Will AI Keep Us Around to Study Us?

01:42:38 AI's Approach to Earth's Resources

01:53:22 Global AI Policies and Risks

02:03:02 The Quality of Doom Discourse

02:09:23 Liron’s Outro

Show Notes

* Mike’s Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/drmikeisraetel

* Mike’s YouTube — https://www.youtube.com/@MikeIsraetelMakingProgress

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