Jeremiah 1–3; 7; 16–18; 20 • Dr. Jeff Thompson • Oct 19–25 • Come, Follow Me 2026

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How do you lead people who have the agency not to follow you? Dr. Jeff Thompson, inaugural director of BYU’s Sorensen Center for Moral and Ethical Leadership, joins Hank and John to explore Jeremiah’s 40 years of faithful service without success and what his story teaches us about letting go of control, trusting the Lord, and leading through our own unique gifts.

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00:00:00 Welcome

00:01:41 Meet Dr. Jeff Thompson

00:03:51 Jeff's background and bio

00:05:35 Jeff's lead role in a musical

00:09:24 Why Jeremiah is relatable

00:13:56 The Sorensen family's quiet influence

00:16:15 Jeremiah's tough times and tough assignment

00:20:05 Divine identity and unique gifts

00:23:27 Being yourself in the Church

00:28:00 Harmony is being different together

00:31:25 A student's hidden leadership gift

00:34:11 Being gentle with youth who don't fit in

00:38:04 Finding your calling: zookeepers

00:41:54 The Christ-Centered Leader Model

00:44:09 Love, agency, and accountability

00:47:29 Seeing the three principles in Jeremiah

00:49:42 Letting people learn from mistakes

00:52:04 Jeff's mohawk story

00:55:06 Learning through consequences

00:58:09 Leadership that keeps the door open

01:02:04 Love and accountability together

01:06:20 Leading with questions

01:09:17 Why we reach for control

01:13:18 Compliance versus conversion

01:15:38 Grace for parents

01:18:39 The potter and the clay

01:21:37 Growth mindset

01:23:04 A man who changed on death row

01:26:43 Jeremiah's raw honesty

01:29:09 Jeff's dramatic reading

01:33:29 Faith and pain together

01:35:46 Leadership measured by faithfulness

01:37:40 Jeff's story about his children

01:41:12 Giving the burden to the Savior

01:43:22 Hope for families in the middle of it

01:45:53 "Church is still in them"

01:48:54 Control is the opposite of faith

01:51:04 Jeremiah will be okay

01:52:29 Why Jeff returns to scripture

01:54:48 Where real power comes from

01:57:33 Closing thanks

01:59:22 End of Episode - Dr. Jeff Thompson