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Season 7 Episode 17: Another World is Possible (ft. Natasha Zapata)

138 min • 20 juni 2025

Natasha Hakimi Zapata joins us to chat w/Ben about her important new book "Another World is Possible: Lessons for America from Around the Globe." From Britain's NHS to Singapore's publicly-leased housing system to New Zealand's egalitarian pensions to Norway's family policies, her book documents the way that countries around the world have proven that social problems that seem intractable in America are in fact perfectly fucking tractable given the political will. Before that, Ben does an Opening Argument on the ongoing insanity in Los Angeles and how to think about the class politics of ICE raids and resistance to them. In the postgame for patrons, we continue to watch Jordan Peterson vs. atheists.

Read Ben's article on the ICE raids:

https://jacobin.com/2025/06/la-unions-immigration-huerta-trump

Buy Natasha's book:

https://thenewpress.org/books/another-world-is-possible/

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