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I Catch Killers with Gary Jubelin

Rejection, resilience and the road to prison: Claude Robertson & Vince Hurley Pt.1

1 tim 4 min18 april 2026

Is the ‘tough on crime approach’ working to keep people safe? 

In this episode of I Catch Killers, Gary is joined by two men from opposite sides of the law who have arrived at the same radical conclusion - the justice system is broken for everyone.

Dr Vince Hurley is a former Detective turned academic, and Claude Robinson is a former heroin addict and prisoner who now runs Rainbow Lodge, a residential center helping high-risk men transition from prison back into society. Together, they challenge everything we think we know about the justice system. 

This episode contains descriptions of men’s violence against women. If you or anyone you know needs support or information, contact 1800 RESPECT on 1800 737 732. 

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