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Dharma Talk: "Bring me the Rhinoceros" with Valerie Forstman and Natalie Goldberg

53 min24 november 2025

For this talk, Valerie is joined by friend, author, artist, and dharma teacher, Natalie Goldberg. Together, Natalie and Valerie take up case 25 in the Book of Equanimity or Shoyoroku as a way of exploring the dharma that is at the heart of every koan – this world that is at once broken and utterly complete.

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Recorded on October 30th, 2025

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