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How To Connect With Nature When You Don't Like Gardening + Dealing With Content Fatigue and Decreased Attention Spans with Ruby Warrington (author of Sober Curious and Women Without Kids)

1 tim 11 min•2 december 2025

In this epsiode, we discuss how Ruby isn't into gardening (and how she connects with nature in her own way), how to deal with constant content (newsletters, social media, news, etc), and how the act of reading novels can bring back your attention span (and bring more joy). 

About this week's guest: Ruby is a journalist and author.

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Ruby's Work:
Website
Sober Curious
Sober Curious Reset
Women Without Kids
Material World, Mystical Girl

Things we talked about:
Flesh byDavid Szalay 
Books to TV / Movies 2025-26

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