Ian talks to Death Cab For Cutie's Dave Depper about making a great rock record, the Gibbardian work ethic, his status as the Ron Wood of Death Cab, his induction into the band, going indie 30 years into a career, raging against the dying of the light, taking selfies with Mike Love and Al Jardine in the catering tent—plus a dispatch from the debut performance of Bob Dylan's Long Hot Summer 2026 Tour.
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