Mark Leonard speaks with Francois Godement and Jeremy Shapiro about what kind of leverage the EU can have over great powers such as the US and China. And should Europe behave differently in institutions such as G7 and UN? The podcast was recorded on 26 July 2018.Picture credit: President Trump met with European Council President Donald Tusk and European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker where they reaffirmed the strong bond between the United States and Europe, by White House Photo https://useu.usmission.gov/70th-anniversary-marshall-plan/trump-eu/, CC BY 3.0 US https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/us/
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