Geng Sng is co-founder and CTO of Cogent, which builds autonomous agents that remediate vulnerabilities for enterprise security teams. Today, Cogent's agents process billions of security events per day, maintaining a live context graph of every asset and vulnerability across customer environments. In this conversation, Geng walks through Cogent's hot vs cold context split, the sub-agents that handle side quests, and the two graphs they run in parallel.
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We also discuss:
- Why defensive security is harder for AI than offensive
- Under the hood of Cogent's three agents
- Inside Cogent's “read only” by-default sandboxes
- Why graph databases don't scale for security data
- Cogent Research and the move into formal verification
- Why interactive agents need a deeper planning phase to one-shot
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Referenced:
- Abnormal AI
- Amazon S3
- Anthropic
- Bash
- ChatGPT
- Claude Code
- Claude Mythos
- CodeMender
- Codex
- Cogent
- Cursor
- Google DeepMind
- GPT-5.5-Cyber
- Jupyter
- Letta
- Mozilla
- OpenAI
- Opus 4.6
- Opus 4.7
- Vercel
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Where to find LangChain:
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Send feedback or questions to [email protected]
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Timestamps:
00:00 Why mean time to exploit collapsed from years to minutes
02:08 Inside Cogent's Agent Lake architecture
05:11 Why Cogent rejected graph databases
10:48 The trust ladder before agents touch production
15:13 The three types of agents inside Cogent
17:07 How Cogent sandboxes its agents
19:16 Short-circuiting interactive agents with a deeper planning phase
24:31 What to do when users believe agents too much
31:21 Why sub-agents let agents go on side quests
34:59 Two-tiered evals and the metric that catches bad prompts
40:00 Cogent’s unique approach to context
48:39 Cogent Research and the move into formal verification
51:33 The single trait Cogent hires for
54:00 Open-sourcing models within six months
57:07 Why defensive security won’t be commoditized anytime soon
1:00:51 The founding insight behind Cogent
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