Episode 184 – OneDrive for Business Shortcuts

In Episode 184, Ben and Scott get into Scott's inability to dive headfirst into iOS 14 and some of the announcements from WWDC and then discuss some new functionality coming to OneDrive for Business. Transcript Email Download New Tab - Welcome to Episode 184 of the Microsoft Cloud IT Pro Podcast. Recorded live on June 26th, 2020. This is a show about Microsoft 365 and Azure from the perspective of IT Pros and end-users, where we discuss the topic or recent news and how it relates to you. In this episode, Ben and Scott kind of diverge from the Azure and Microsoft 365 news and spend the first 15 minutes talking about various tidbits from Apple's WWDC conference. So if you don't care about their thoughts on apples, skip the first 15 minutes and jump to the second half of the episode where they discuss some recent SharePoint in OneDrive news. - My brain is still on vacation. - Yeah, It's still stuck in the mountains of North Carolina. - It is Georgia, we didn't go to North Carolina-- - We stuck to Georgia. It was almost North Carolina. - Did you stick to Georgia, did Georgia stick on you? It's a little muggy this time of year. - You know what? It was actually really nice. - 'Cause you go into the mountains. - ' Cause we were in the mountains, like we'd wake up in the morning and it was like 55, 60 degrees and it was beautiful. So we took hikes, let my kids go play in the streams and throw rocks and naturally, because it was cool, we didn't take swimsuits or they weren't wearing swimsuits, so we just let them soak their clothes and they had fun. And then the very last day it was hot so we spent the day playing in the pool that was there on the beach and in boats and social distancing in boats, canoes and kayaks and all that. - Nice! - So it was, it was a good break. - Well, I mean, if you ever do it again and you want, you can always borrow the paddleboards. I have inflatable paddleboards, those are fun. - I do, so they had some paddleboards there that we could use too and I did not try one. I thought about trying to get my kids on one with me, but I have not actually paddleboarded before. - All right, let's do a quick thought experiment. You're in a chair, yes? - So if I can sit in a chair, you're saying I can paddleboard? - No, quite the opposite. If you can stand up out of the chair and stand without putting your hand on the chair to hold you up, you're probably pretty good. - I'm pretty good. Well, see I could snowboard and ski and all that, so I could probably do it just fine, but I also wasn't sure how well the paddleboards, like, have you ever put a kid on your paddleboard with you? - Yeah, kid, yep. - Okay, I tried the dogs. - Yeah. - I See, so yeah, I probably could have done it. I guess we'll have to go do it again, an the excuse to go on another vacation. - There you go. - Outlook Add-ins are a great way to improve productivity and save time in the workplace. And Sperry software has all the add- ins you'll ever need. The Save as PDF add-in is a best seller and is great for project backups, legal discovery, and more. This add-in saves the email and attachments as PDF files. It's easy to download, easy to install and Sperry software's unparalleled customer service is always ready to help. Download a free trial at "sperrysoftware.com", S-P-E-R-R-Y-S-O-F-T-W-A-R-E.com. and see for yourself how great Save as PDF is. 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So that's fine. - Except for Mario Kart. - No, I don't play Mario Kart. - Not, not . - Mario Kart is my only broken app. - I don't even know why you play that on an iPhone, get a Switch. - I don't have a Switch that's why I play it on the iPhone. - Yeah, like that stuff's all fine and fine, okay? But I am also on a set of managed devices. So they're all joined to Intune and things like that. I don't know how Intune is gonna react when it sees iOS 14. And if it considers that an iOS version number, it doesn't know about and then all of a sudden I'm jailbroken and it's a big pain to go backwards and, you know, get a backup, do the IPSW restore and all that kind of stuff. - It's true. Yes, I was forgetting about the fact that the whole Intune management and that actually cares about build numbers and-- - Who knows if it does, or if it doesn't--- - It doesn't, scientists don't want to be the one to try it. So I'll probably try it with the public beta when it's an even worse time to do it and . - Yeah, that's what all the companies start locking it down when the public beta is actually out and all of their employees could go do it just easily. - But public betas aren't too bad. They're usually a dev release or two behind. So the expectation would be that in another week or two, you go from dev beta one to dev beta two. And that takes us into July and then at some point in July, public beta one comes out, but public beta one is really the same build as dev beta two or dev beta three. And then they track behind a little bit from there. - I feel like there's a company though, it's chart trying to lock it down more once they hit public beta, because you're gonna get a lot more people that go install it once it hits public beta. With dev beta, you're not gonna get as many people that are gonna go try it. - Well, you're gonna get. - I don't know, you're gonna get crazy people like you and I, that don't do any type of development on Apple, like I'm not building or releasing iOS apps or Mac apps, but we're paying to be in the dev program. So that we can have access to beta profiles. - Because we just don't have any patience when it comes to shiny new toys. - That's it GIF MIC. You know what all I want is my live tiles and my full convergence of iOS, Android, and web iOS. That's all I need. - I don't like, there's some stuff here. This can cause some controversy, I did not see anything, so I watched the key, well, I did not watch the keynote. I had the keynote playing in the background for WWDC, I did not see anything that was innovative in that entire keynote up until the last 30 minutes. Everything else I looked at and I was like, they ripped that off from Windows phone, from Android, from something else. And then the only, in my opinion, the only really innovative thing or groundbreaking thing they started talking about was their plan to switch from Intel to ARM and to go to all of their own silicone chips. That was the most innovative thing I saw in the entire, however many hours they talked about all of the stuff they're doing. - Yeah, I mean, we're in the point in the cycle where innovation is tough, but everybody can refine and riff on a series of ideas. - Right. - Which I'm totally fine with, like, people complain that like, "Oh, Apple took that from Android "or it came from Web iOS or," whatever it was. Like, yeah certainly there's inspiration to be found there but quite often the Apple way of doing it for better or worse is more refined. Or if it's not more refined, like way more people are gonna use it. Both my parents have Android phones, they don't even know what widgets on the home screen are, but I guarantee you that every single person who has an iPhone, once they figure out widgets are there, they're gonna be lit up and be a thing. - Right. - And that's the power of that ecosystem. - I don't have a problem with that. Like again, I'm loved the widgets, I like the idea. It's not that I'm expecting them to be innovative, I think it's the fact that I feel like a lot of times they sell it as being innovative. And it's this magical new experience of this beautiful thing and-- - Well, that's the job of marketing. That's a different conversation. - Oh yes. - You can be like yoga in Spaceballs, it's just merchandising, merchandising, merchandising. - Yes. - It's fine. Go do it and do it better and get more people to adopt it and make it simpler but don't sell it as a brand new idea. That's all it is we're making iOS better and you do not need a keynote that long to cover what they did. But anyways, that has absolutely nothing to do with cloud news, that's just me ranting. - Yes, I mean, there's some fun stuff there and it's kind of exciting. And so you mentioned Apple silicon, so that's gonna bring ARM into the mainstream as well, like today there's all sorts of ARM devices out there. You've got things like iOS devices or iPad iOS devices. So iPhones and iPads and things like that. There's a slew of Andrew tablets like all the, you know, Fire HD tablets, Microsoft has a Surface Pro X or it's an extra 10 underneath, I think it's the X. - I don't know, - And so, but that's the ARM-based Surface Pro tablet. So that has been kicking around for a while. But again, it's gonna be kind of Apple potentially bringing it mainstream and lighting some of that up. So that's gonna be exciting as well, like to have kind of a new, fun convergence thing going on. - Right at least-- - But it's gonna be all locked down in the apply kind of ways. So good luck installing customer OSS and all the things that you're using. - As soon as I, until it comes to installing my Windows VM on an arm based Mac,...