Episode 283: Life After Doom – an interview with Brian McLaren

Brian McLaren talks about his new book, 'Life After Doom: Wisdom and Courage for a World Falling Apart'. He and Joe discuss how denial is exhausting, why our enemies are not people, but systems and how we all need to exercise our power to show up. 'Once you discover the God of love you fire all your other gods'. Also, remember, humans are a mess, but the birds are awesome.

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Mentioned in this episode:

• Nick Page: How to be wise: Confessions of a recovering idiot
• Clangers
• Clangers on QI
• Brian McLaren
• Centre for Action and Contemplation
• Life After Doom: Wisdom and Courage for a World Falling Apart