Close the Tabs: Decluttering Your Mind for Better Sleep | Kathryn Nicolai (Bonus Episode)

You crawl into bed exhausted… and suddenly your brain decides it's the perfect time to replay conversations, plan tomorrow's to-do list, and worry about everything you didn't finish.

If that sounds familiar, you're not alone.

In this episode, Diane sits down with Kathryn Nicolai, creator of the wildly popular Nothing Much Happens sleep podcast, to explore why so many of us struggle to quiet our minds at the end of the day. Drawing from years of teaching meditation and helping millions of listeners fall asleep, Kathryn explains why our brains aren't broken - they're simply doing what they've been trained to do in a world of constant urgency and information overload.

Together, they discuss how simple evening rituals can help create a gentler transition from productivity to rest, why our minds feel busiest when we finally slow down, and practical ways to give our brains a calming place to land before sleep.

Links Discussed in This Episode |

• Checkout the podcast storefront for recommendations from Diane.
• Subscribe to the Minimalist Moms Youtube Channel
• Kathryn Resource: Vipassana
• Connect with Kathryn
• Website
• Instagram
• Podcast
• YouTube
• Audio Novel: On the Street Where You Live

About Kathryn |

Kathryn Nicolai is the creator and host of Nothing Much Happens, one of the most listened-to sleep podcasts in the world, where millions of listeners use her stories to calm anxiety, fall asleep, and feel more at ease in their bodies. With over 20 years of experience as a yoga and meditation teacher, Kathryn is a trusted voice in self-care, focusing on sleep hygiene, nervous system regulation, mindfulness, and storytelling as medicine. Through her work, she helps people cultivate rest, creativity, and emotional resilience in a culture shaped by overstimulation and burnout.

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