Muhammed Ali defends the treatment of Christians in Muslim-majority countries by citing Egypt's 15 million Coptic Christians who have churches and freedom to practice, and noting that Egypt's Muslim president built the largest cathedral in the Middle East. When the interlocutor claims the world would be better without religion, Muhammed counters that history's greatest atrocities (Mao, Stalin, WWI/WWII, Hiroshima) were committed by atheist regimes or for non-religious reasons. He argues that objective morality requires a divine source—without God, moral claims like 'killing is wrong' become mere opinion—and challenges the atheist to ground morality without religion. He also defends Islamic capital punishment as comparable to Western justice systems.
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