A calming, cold flannel of a person

Jane and Fi are talking about pet insurance that's a trifle suspicious, the little moments of joy in raising toddlers and, of course, sex.

They're joined by Rory Cellan-Jones to talk about his podcast 'Movers and Shakers: a podcast about life with Parkinson's'

If you want to contact the show to ask a question and get involved in the conversation then please email us: janeandfi@times.radio

Assistant Producers: Kate Lee

Times Radio Producer: Rosie Cutler

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