I think there's a benign lazy streak in me (with Michael Ball)

Jane and Fi have come to the end of a jam-packed week, and need a quiet night in. But before that, they're talking about pet politics, hereditary laziness, and whether we should consider quietly quitting our jobs.

Plus, they're joined by the one and only Michael Ball OBE, to talk about his memoir Different Aspects.

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