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'Godfather of AI' Geoffrey Hinton Rings the Warning Bells

59 min13 november 2025

Nobel laureate Geoffrey Hinton, known as one of the “godfathers of AI” for his pioneering work in deep learning and neural networks, joins Kara to discuss the technology he helped create — and how to mitigate the existential risks it poses. 

Hinton explains both the short- and long-term dangers he sees in the rapid rise of artificial intelligence, from its potential to undermine democracy to the existential threat of machines surpassing human intelligence. He offers a thoughtful, complex perspective on how to craft national and international policies to keep AI in check and weighs in on whether the  AI bubble is about to burst. Plus: why your mom might be the best model for creating a safe AI.

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