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Journalists or Creators? How Media Entrepreneurs Are Reshaping News

60 min • 31 juli 2025

Legacy media isn’t dead, but journalists are leaving traditional outlets in swarms to launch their own newsletters, podcasts and social media ventures, and they may be forcing a reboot. As one of the early media entrepreneurs (and a trusted advisor to many of those who aspire to follow in her footsteps), Kara sits down to discuss the current landscape with Oliver Darcy, founder of the “must-read” media newsletter “Status”; Katie Drummond, Wired’s global editorial director; and Dave Jorgenson, The Washington Post's former “TikTok Guy”, who has recently launched his own site, Local News International. In a freewheeling conversation, they unpack the challenges of audience capture, the looming shadow of AI, and the surprising (financial) realities of being an independent journalist.

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