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Is China the Winner of the Iran War?

52 min•3 april 2026

The 1970s oil crisis changed the world in ways that many people forget today, from the transformation of American politics to the rise of the Japanese electronics industry. The Iran war of 2026 could have similarly global consequences, from the rise of China to changes in the future of war to the acceleration of the global renewables transition. Today, Australian investor and writer Alex Turnbull joins the show to discuss the most important and most surprising second-order effects of the war.

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Host: Derek Thompson

Guest: Alex Turnbull

Producer: Devon Baroldi

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