485. Shane Hurd & Christopher O'Brien

HOUR ONE: Shane Hurd on the Phoenix Lights, joined by Tom King who filmed the them as well as more sightings to this day, and the Shane talks about his book, "Unidentified Aerial Phenomena: A Beginner's Guide to Researching UFOs" and HOUR TWO: Christopher O'Brien on longtime UFO investigations, the current state of UFOlogy, and recent projects.Show Notes

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