786. Navy veteran Jimmy Hernandez III and filmmaker David Beaty

Martin Willis welcomes Navy veteran Jimmy Hernandez III and filmmaker David Beaty for a closer look at the 2004 USS Nimitz Tic Tac encounter. In his first live public interview, Jimmy recounts hearing Commander David Fravor’s startled radio communications while working in Primary Flight Control, witnessing men removing recordings, and signing a nondisclosure agreement. He explains why he remained silent for years, even with his wife. Beaty discusses his expanded documentary, The Nimitz Encounters, as the conversation explores conflicting witness accounts, missing data, radar spoofing theories, and the unanswered questions surrounding this remarkable UFO case.

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