Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl

Dr. Stephen Porges | Safety, Connection, and Polyvagal Theory

54 min • 17 juni 2025

What is Polyvagal Theory and how does it explain the science of feelings?

This week, Thomas sits down with Dr. Stephen Porges, a professor, author, and the originator of Polyvagal Theory.

Dr. Porges’ theory offers radical yet practical methods for calming our physical (or “biobehavioral”) states so that our mind can follow suit. Traditionally, the opposite approach has been the norm, but research increasingly indicates that the body should lead the charge.

In this conversation, it’s made clear that safety, connection, and co-regulation are essential for this type of nervous system regulation. Thomas and Dr. Porges explore what’s needed to create an environment that supports healing, and how Polyvagal Theory enhances our ability to handle crises and heal trauma, anxiety, and physical ailments linked to nervous system dysregulation.

Dr. Porges also shares a cutting-edge acoustic technique for trauma healing that could lead to a real paradigm shift in psychology and therapy.



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✨ Stephen W. Porges, Ph.D. is a Distinguished University Scientist at Indiana University where he is the founding director of the Traumatic Stress Research Consortium in the Kinsey Institute, and recipient of a National Institute of Mental Health Research Scientist Development Award. He is the originator of the Polyvagal Theory, and the creator of a music-based intervention, the Safe and Sound Protocol™.


Connect with Dr. Porges here:


👉 https://www.polyvagalinstitute.org


👉  https://www.stephenporges.com


Learn about The Polyvagal Institute Certificate Course: 👉 https://www.polyvagalinstitute.org/pv...


Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. 


In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.


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