19. Upgrade from Vibe Coding to AI-Native Product Design (Metalab's Myles Palmer)

Metalab has spent the last 20 years designing products for Windsurf, Midjourney, Suno, The Atlantic, and Uber. AI has made feature parity between products fast and cheap — anyone can ship the same baseline in a fraction of the time it used to take. Design Director Myles Palmer's answer to that isn't "taste." He thinks that word is a hollow way to dodge a much harder question.

Myles discusses what actually separates Metalab's AI-native design process from how most teams are building right now, why a vibe-coded prototype can create a dangerous false sense of confidence, and what design looks like once a product moves past the chat box.

In this episode we cover:

➜ Why Metalab's 20-year discipline, not any single tool, is what actually differentiates its AI-native design process.

➜ Myles Palmer on why "taste" is a hollow answer, and what actually differentiates once AI makes feature parity cheap.

➜ Brittany's own vibe-coded travel app cost thousands in API calls and still lost to Google — the false confidence trap.

➜ What founders actually pay for later when they skip design early, and why it defends against a "sea of average."

➜ What AI design looks like past the chat box — ambient transit, try-on shopping, and rethinking university sites.

➜ Digital twins, the 23andMe cautionary tale, and why Apple's health-data model is where consent design is headed.

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"I hate the idea of taste. The idea that taste is this differentiator drives me crazy because it's like, well, everybody's taste is different anyway." — Myles Palmer

"Investing early in design defends against that sea of average." — Myles Palmer

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Myles Palmer is a Design Director at Metalab, where he leads and shapes meaningful products and experiences for both startups and global brands. Before joining Metalab, he founded and led Companion, a design studio built on strategic creativity and sustainable team culture. Myles also founded Pair Up, a platform connecting thousands of creatives for mentorship and peer learning. His work blends strategic thinking with human-centered design and thoughtful leadership that elevates product experiences.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/myles-palmer-b1b70519/

Metalab Website: www.metalab.com

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Hosted by:

➜ Arpy Dragffy Guerrero — https://www.linkedin.com/in/adragffy/

➜ Brittany Hobbs — https://www.linkedin.com/in/brittanyhobbs/

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