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109: [Guest 37] Jude Shedden - Frontman of The Claes talks being a musician/songwriter, acting since he was a child and his love for film and music

4 augusti | 105 min

108: [Guest 36] Its Chaotic Quiz time with Gareth

28 juli | 85 min

107: [Guest 35] 'Tash on Telly' Joins us to discuss her experience in the TV/Film industry. Also Gaming indusctry

21 juli | 94 min

106: [Deep Dive 3] Gary Oldman: Personal Life, Iconic Roles & Career Highlights

14 juli | 74 min

105: [Guest 34] Jonny Wright - Director/Writer/Producer - The Apprentice, Reality TV & making Short Films

7 juli | 102 min

104: [Review 20] 28 Years Later, as well as 28 Days & 28 Weeks

30 juni | 70 min

103: [Guest 33] Kirstie Warren - Movie Reviewer, Radio DJ and fan of Marvel, Disney & Eurovision

23 juni | 83 min

102: [Guest 32] Harry Attwell - Working in Theatre & Movies

16 juni | 86 min

101: [Review 19/Guest 31] Paul Bullion talks behind the scenes stories of acting in Mission: Impossible - The Final Reckoning

9 juni | 92 min

Ep 97: [Guest 30] Simeon - The Meaning Of Men Podcast: Masculinity, Role Models, Societal Expectations, Parenting and Movies

12 maj | 90 min

[Spoiler Review 18] Thunderbolts* / The New Avengers

9 maj | 77 min

Ep 96: Recommendations - Stunt Awards, Black Mirror, Minecraft phenomenon, Dark Documentaries & Classic movies

5 maj | 64 min

[Spoiler Review 17] Inception

28 april | 71 min

[Deep Dive 2] Christopher Nolan (with regular guest Kate)

21 april | 64 min

[Spoiler Review 16] Terminator 2: Judgment Day

14 april | 72 min

[Spoiler Review 15] Novocaine (With Guest Gareth)

10 april | 53 min

[Deep Dive 1] Colin Farrell

7 april | 66 min

Ep 95: [Guest 29: Kate] Kate Interviews Rage Whale

31 mars | 86 min

[Spoiler Review 14] Adolescence - Netflix Series (with Regular Guest Emma our Therapist)

25 mars | 86 min

[Spoiler Review 13] Mickey 17

17 mars | 64 min

[Spoiler Review 12] The Monkey & Captain America: Brave New World

13 mars | 72 min

Ep 94: [Guest 28: Peter] 97th Oscars Review - Winners, Surprises, Funny moments & how did we do with our predictions in Ep 90

10 mars | 67 min

Ep 93: Bond acquired by Amazon, Retro Toys, Movie News & New Trailers

3 mars | 61 min

Ep 92: [Guest 27: Paul Bullion] Actor from Peaky Blinders, The Witcher and soon to appear in Mission Impossible 8. Tom Cruise's Cake and a Charity Ambassador

24 februari | 112 min

[Spoiler Review 11] Prisoners

20 februari | 63 min

Ep 91: [Guest 26: Daniel Pitts] Photographer, hilarious anecdotes, movie ideas, fitness & a future collab with Rage Whale

17 februari | 81 min

[Spoiler Review 10] The Substance - It's themes highlighting societal expectations

13 februari | 76 min

Ep 90: [Guest 25: Peter] Oscar nominations & Snubs, Movie News & Companion

10 februari | 78 min

[Spoiler Review 9] The Matrix

6 februari | 68 min

Ep 89: [Guest 24: Kate] Creeping each other out with Ghost Stories & weird Audience Questions

3 februari | 112 min

[Spoiler Review 8] Se7en (30th Anniversary)

30 januari | 54 min

Ep 88: Kevs Birthday, Drinking Games, A Complete Unknown, & David Lynch

27 januari | 78 min

Ep 87: [Guest 23: Lewis Saunderson] The Crying Man Social Media Sensation - Crying, Inspiration, Mental Health, Cancel Culture & Emotional Movies

20 januari | 123 min

Ep 86: Mr Beast Games, Squid Games, GTA6, Golden Globes & Movie News

16 januari | 101 min

[Spoiler Review 7] Nosferatu (with RegularGuest Peter from USA)

13 januari | 57 min

Ep 85: The Kev & Drew Show - Xmas TV shows, Better Man, Squid Game 2 & old movies over new ones

9 januari | 91 min

Ep 84: What movies were looking forward to seeing in 2025 including the Superman trailer

6 januari | 77 min

[Spoiler Review 6] Carry-On with Taron Egerton & Jason Bateman

2 januari | 36 min

Ep: 83 Happy New Year with the roundup of the best movies of 2024, Shout Outs, Dad Jokes, Sonic 3 & Kraven

30 december 2024 | 80 min

[Spoiler Review 5] M3GAN - comparisons to Scream, Chucky, Terminator & RoboCop

26 december 2024 | 31 min

Ep 82: XMAS SPECIAL - Fav Xmas presents & Movies as well as Disney Land, Parenting & Conspiracies

23 december 2024 | 106 min

Ep 81: Childish humour and Predictions of the TV categories for The Golden Globes

19 december 2024 | 65 min

Ep 80: Golden Globe Predictions for Movies. Shout Outs and Spotify Wrapped

16 december 2024 | 70 min

Ep 79: Spiderman (all variations), Strange Darling, Misfits, Ticketmaster Outrage & Computer games

12 december 2024 | 74 min

Ep 78: Sleep Token gig, Meeting Jeff Goldblum & Kevin Spacey, Movie News, Paul Chicken, Musicals and Kids TV Shows

9 december 2024 | 66 min

Ep 77: [Guest 22: Ben] The Geek Episode: Sci-Fi, Star Wars & The Taskmaster Experience

5 december 2024 | 86 min

Ep 76: TV Comedy shows from Fonejacker to Father Ted & Kneecap Review

2 december 2024 | 63 min

Ep 75: [Guest 21: Ross] Crazy stories from working in Odeon Cinema & nostalgia from working in Blockbusters

25 november 2024 | 162 min

[Spoiler Review 4] A Nightmare on Elm Street (40th anniversary)

21 november 2024 | 27 min

Ep 74: [Guest 20: Michael] Movie News & Recommendations, Nostalgia TV & Quiz on Nepotism/Bond Themes/Soundtracks

18 november 2024 | 129 min

Ep 73: The Resurrection Episode - We reflect on Emmanuel Bonami appearance + Don't Move & Heretic

14 november 2024 | 77 min

Ep 72: [Guest 19: Emmanuel Bonami & Joana Pido] Stand Up Comedian & a shock surprise for the team with Emmanuel Bonami (Plus regulars Kate & Gareth)

11 november 2024 | 115 min

[Spoiler Review 3] Terrifier 3 (with regular guest from NY Peter)

7 november 2024 | 66 min

Ep 71: Halloween Special, Horror Quiz, Movie News & Top 5 Horrors 2024

4 november 2024 | 98 min

Ep 70: [Guest 18: Emma & Kate] Therapy session with 2 regular guests

28 oktober 2024 | 157 min

Ep 69: [Guest 17: Michael] Movie budgets, Tesla Robots, confidence & we debate Politics and the Covid Vaccine

24 oktober 2024 | 163 min

[Spoiler Review 2] Joker: Folie à Deux (With Regular guest Michael)

21 oktober 2024 | 36 min

Ep 68: [Guest 16: Eleanor] Green Day gig, Horror movies, riding horses, rescuing cats, modelling and photography

14 oktober 2024 | 122 min

Ep 67: [Guest 15: Chris] Music, Taskmaster Experience, Conspiracy Theories & P Diddy

7 oktober 2024 | 141 min

Ep 66: Us 3 back together with Show & Tell, talking new Netflix series, Movie News & The Substance

3 oktober 2024 | 75 min

Ep 65: [Guest 14: Arran Green] BONUS Action movies, stunts and CGI.

1 oktober 2024 | 34 min

Ep 65: [Guest 14: Arran Green] We grill this Cinematographer about working with Eminem & his experience in the industry

30 september 2024 | 84 min

Ep 64: [Guest 13: Liv] BONUS Meeting a Hollywood Mega Star, guessing heights, Barbie and Unconscious Bias

26 september 2024 | 70 min

Ep 63: [Guest 13: Liv] talking Modelling, Law Degree, Rugby and Living abroad

23 september 2024 | 79 min

Ep 62: [Guest 12: Saoirse] Fashion Model & works in Education. We talk music, gigs & movies

19 september 2024 | 95 min

EP 61: Beetlejuice 2, afrAId, Rebel Ridge & a Beatles weekend in Liverpool

16 september 2024 | 66 min

EP 60: Kev & James do top 10 lists & discuss classic movies that were originally panned by critics

12 september 2024 | 66 min

Ep 59: [Guest 11: Elijah Baker] Actor from The Batman; we talk auditions and his love of movies

9 september 2024 | 137 min

Ep 58: From American Psycho to new movies Blink Twice, The Crow and the importance of Music & Atmosphere

5 september 2024 | 66 min

Ep 57: Alien Romulus Review, New Rage Whale Music & The Predator is in Cornwall

2 september 2024 | 70 min

Ep 56: [Guest 10: Kate] Movies adapted from Books, France, Bonami, Peter Andre & Paul Chicken Adventures & a 'Guest 2 Guest' question section

29 augusti 2024 | 74 min

Ep 55: [Guest 9: Kate] Laughing uncontrollably, we discuss the 'Diary Of A CEO' podcast, losing eyes, poetry & Gender Roles

26 augusti 2024 | 100 min

Ep 54: [Guest 8: Aaron] Discuss living in Sweden, Photography, have a food related question from the audience & Review TRAP

22 augusti 2024 | 123 min

Ep 53: Borderlands, Our Podcast Analytics, Disney Announcements & The Olympics Closing Ceremony

19 augusti 2024 | 72 min

Ep 52: [Guest 7: Gareth & Chris] BONUS James wants it to end, so we don't let it.

16 augusti 2024 | 21 min

Ep 52: [Guest 7: Gareth & Chris] We discuss growing up together, movies in each decade & Deadpool

15 augusti 2024 | 59 min

Ep 51: Feedback & A Question from 2 of our previous Special Guests. Movies that affected us when we were young. Also Bond, Fonts and Guessing release dates

12 augusti 2024 | 78 min

Ep 50: [Spoiler Review 1] Deadpool & Wolverine

8 augusti 2024 | 91 min

Ep 49: Olympics, Crime, Brutality & Controversy with a slice of Movie News

5 augusti 2024 | 83 min

Ep 48: [Guest 6: Emma] BONUS Being positive & being appreciated with our therapist guest

2 augusti 2024 | 49 min

Ep 48: [Guest 6: Emma] We go deep and talk mental health, lockdown & Inside Out 2

1 augusti 2024 | 67 min

Ep 47: Twisters, Fluff, Argos Toys & Corruption

29 juli 2024 | 69 min

Ep 46: The Batman, New Trailers, Silly then Serious ending with an audience question from Poet Dani

25 juli 2024 | 87 min

Ep 45: Triple Horror week, Trump Shooting, video games

22 juli 2024 | 73 min

Ep 44: [Guest 5: Kate] BONUS Old Days, Fav decade of movies, top 3 directors, Cat Bum, Keith the Spider & Bad Fashion

19 juli 2024 | 68 min

Ep 44: [Guest 5: Kate] We discuss and see Kates talents, James' Delivery mishaps, ridiculous movies & an Audience question from Sara (Shed)

18 juli 2024 | 58 min

Ep 43: Random Facts, Beverly Hills Cop 4, Vinyls, Mia Goth & Collectables

15 juli 2024 | 68 min

Ep 42: 3 Shades of Grey discuss Movie News, Kinds of Kindness & the Horrors out in cinema next week

11 juli 2024 | 87 min

Ep 41: A Quiet Place: Day One, Bikeriders, Glastonbury & Knuckle Dusters

8 juli 2024 | 67 min

Ep 40: A Euphoric James, Vampires, The Boys, UK Accents & Donald Sutherland

4 juli 2024 | 78 min

Ep 39: Teddy's Twerking, Bad Boys, Weird Al & Wesley Snipes

1 juli 2024 | 67 min

Ep 38: [Guest 4: Sara (Shed)] BONUS more chat and a Quiz

28 juni 2024 | 54 min

Ep 38: [Guest 4: Sara (Shed)] Talking about the good old days, Phobias and a 'Would You Rather' audience question from Kate

27 juni 2024 | 63 min

Ep 37: Medicated & Off Topic. Sting, Hitman, Sick, Politics & Religion

24 juni 2024 | 68 min

Ep 36: [Guest 3: Michael] BONUS: The Crow, Tarantino and what we're looking forward to in the future

14 juni 2024 | 47 min

Ep 36: [Guest 3: Michael] Kevs cousins first appearance discussing Furiosa & Accents

13 juni 2024 | 61 min

Ep 35: 30 Seconds to Mars, Movie News, Questions from the audience

10 juni 2024 | 59 min

Ep 34: Bad Ass Movies, getting dark, getting real, talking Animals, Kids and True Crime

6 juni 2024 | 78 min

Ep 33: Gigs, Movie News, Complaining and Taylor-Joy/Hemsworth back catalogue

3 juni 2024 | 74 min

Ep 32: New Apes Movie, Audience Question, Movie News

30 maj 2024 | 80 min

Ep 31: Music, Extreme Sports & White Man Cant Jump tangents

27 maj 2024 | 67 min

Ep 30: News, Cats, Dates & A Heated Debate

23 maj 2024 | 75 min

Ep 29: IF Review, Pixar, Dreamworks & talking Animated Movies

20 maj 2024 | 71 min

Ep 28: Movie News & Movies from 1998

16 maj 2024 | 66 min

Ep 27: Fall Guy, Horror Quiz & Rock Bands

13 maj 2024 | 72 min

Ep 26: [Guest 2: Max King] Part 2: THE BONUS EPISODE

10 maj 2024 | 43 min

Ep 26: [Guest 2: Max King] Discussing Horror with a YouTuber Horror reviewer

9 maj 2024 | 53 min

Ep 25: Good and Bad Movie endings

6 maj 2024 | 63 min

Ep 24: Questions from the audience, Back To Black, Pet, Spider-Verse

2 maj 2024 | 69 min

Ep 23: Spilling Beer, New Trailers that ignite the chat & The hunt for the age of Emmanuel Bonami

29 april 2024 | 61 min

Ep 22: Crazy stories from our youth, Political Correctness, Trigger Warnings & Civil War

25 april 2024 | 82 min

Ep 21: Spotting Movie Stars in the wild. Discussing Baby Reindeer.

22 april 2024 | 62 min

Ep 20: Our Top 5 with twist and what not to watch

18 april 2024 | 65 min

Ep 19: The First Omen, Bane Impressions which turn into Family Guy

15 april 2024 | 68 min

Ep 18: Questions from the Audience, Jake Gyllenhaal top 5

11 april 2024 | 64 min

Ep 17: Godzilla, a24, Independants vs Mainstream

8 april 2024 | 64 min

Ep 16: Us being young filmmakers, Trailers, Horror, War & most rewatchable series

4 april 2024 | 69 min

Ep 15: [Guest 1: Gareth] Discussing, Road House(s) & Movie Quotes Quiz

1 april 2024 | 58 min

Ep 14: Drive Away Dolls, Double Quiz with Tarantino vs Superheros

28 mars 2024 | 60 min

Ep 13: Podcast launched, 007 Rumour, The Rock vs John Cena

27 mars 2024 | 51 min

Ep 12: Oscars 2024 Performances & The best comedians

26 mars 2024 | 61 min

Ep 11: Dune: Part Two, WiFi Routers, Cinema visit, 2nd film in a Trilogy

25 mars 2024 | 61 min

Ep 10: Where the name 'Rage Whale' came from and how we met, Pac-Man & Black Mirror

22 mars 2024 | 58 min

Ep 9: Cinema Hype, Wicked Little Letters & Lisa Frankenstein

21 mars 2024 | 51 min

Ep 8: Remakes, Reboots, 6 degrees and Vigilantes

20 mars 2024 | 57 min

Ep 7: Bob Marley, Black Bird & Apple+, Top Guns and remakes

19 mars 2024 | 49 min

Ep 6: BAFTAS Quiz & Opinions/ Poorly timed sound effects

18 mars 2024 | 50 min

Ep 5: Madame Web vs Thor vs Sony, Ted, The Office, Trailers

17 mars 2024 | 47 min

Ep 4: Zone of Interest, Needed light relief, Fargo series & True Detective

16 mars 2024 | 54 min

Ep 3: James is podding from Spain, Recap, The Iron Claw & Drew disappears

16 mars 2024 | 21 min

Ep 2: Tangents, Actors names & ages, Improvising, arguing and random facts

16 mars 2024 | 45 min

Ep 1: The beginning, please search for more recent episodes that are better quality sound. Failing to not talk over each other about: All Of Us Strangers, Argylle, Anyone But You + Much More

16 mars 2024 | 43 min

Ep 94: [Guest 28: Peter] 97th Oscars Review - Winners, Surprises, Funny moments & how did we do with our predictions in Ep 90

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109: [Guest 37] Jude Shedden - Frontman of The Claes talks being a musician/songwriter, acting since he was a child and his love for film and music

108: [Guest 36] Its Chaotic Quiz time with Gareth

107: [Guest 35] 'Tash on Telly' Joins us to discuss her experience in the TV/Film industry. Also Gaming indusctry

106: [Deep Dive 3] Gary Oldman: Personal Life, Iconic Roles & Career Highlights

105: [Guest 34] Jonny Wright - Director/Writer/Producer - The Apprentice, Reality TV & making Short Films

104: [Review 20] 28 Years Later, as well as 28 Days & 28 Weeks

103: [Guest 33] Kirstie Warren - Movie Reviewer, Radio DJ and fan of Marvel, Disney & Eurovision

102: [Guest 32] Harry Attwell - Working in Theatre & Movies

101: [Review 19/Guest 31] Paul Bullion talks behind the scenes stories of acting in Mission: Impossible - The Final Reckoning

100: The end of Season 1 with 2 Guests & 3 Quiz's

Ep 99: New Merch and we all meet up for a Photoshoot in London

Ep 98: Sinners, X-Files, 90s Reboots & New Trailers

Ep 97: [Guest 30] Simeon - The Meaning Of Men Podcast: Masculinity, Role Models, Societal Expectations, Parenting and Movies

[Spoiler Review 18] Thunderbolts* / The New Avengers

Ep 96: Recommendations - Stunt Awards, Black Mirror, Minecraft phenomenon, Dark Documentaries & Classic movies

[Spoiler Review 17] Inception

[Deep Dive 2] Christopher Nolan (with regular guest Kate)

[Spoiler Review 16] Terminator 2: Judgment Day

[Spoiler Review 15] Novocaine (With Guest Gareth)

[Deep Dive 1] Colin Farrell

Ep 95: [Guest 29: Kate] Kate Interviews Rage Whale

[Spoiler Review 14] Adolescence - Netflix Series (with Regular Guest Emma our Therapist)

[Spoiler Review 13] Mickey 17

[Spoiler Review 12] The Monkey & Captain America: Brave New World

Ep 94: [Guest 28: Peter] 97th Oscars Review - Winners, Surprises, Funny moments & how did we do with our predictions in Ep 90

Ep 93: Bond acquired by Amazon, Retro Toys, Movie News & New Trailers

Ep 92: [Guest 27: Paul Bullion] Actor from Peaky Blinders, The Witcher and soon to appear in Mission Impossible 8. Tom Cruise's Cake and a Charity Ambassador

[Spoiler Review 11] Prisoners

Ep 91: [Guest 26: Daniel Pitts] Photographer, hilarious anecdotes, movie ideas, fitness & a future collab with Rage Whale

[Spoiler Review 10] The Substance - It's themes highlighting societal expectations

Ep 90: [Guest 25: Peter] Oscar nominations & Snubs, Movie News & Companion

[Spoiler Review 9] The Matrix

Ep 89: [Guest 24: Kate] Creeping each other out with Ghost Stories & weird Audience Questions

[Spoiler Review 8] Se7en (30th Anniversary)

Ep 88: Kevs Birthday, Drinking Games, A Complete Unknown, & David Lynch

Ep 87: [Guest 23: Lewis Saunderson] The Crying Man Social Media Sensation - Crying, Inspiration, Mental Health, Cancel Culture & Emotional Movies

Ep 86: Mr Beast Games, Squid Games, GTA6, Golden Globes & Movie News

[Spoiler Review 7] Nosferatu (with RegularGuest Peter from USA)

Ep 85: The Kev & Drew Show - Xmas TV shows, Better Man, Squid Game 2 & old movies over new ones

Ep 84: What movies were looking forward to seeing in 2025 including the Superman trailer

[Spoiler Review 6] Carry-On with Taron Egerton & Jason Bateman

Ep: 83 Happy New Year with the roundup of the best movies of 2024, Shout Outs, Dad Jokes, Sonic 3 & Kraven

[Spoiler Review 5] M3GAN - comparisons to Scream, Chucky, Terminator & RoboCop

Ep 82: XMAS SPECIAL - Fav Xmas presents & Movies as well as Disney Land, Parenting & Conspiracies

Ep 81: Childish humour and Predictions of the TV categories for The Golden Globes

Ep 80: Golden Globe Predictions for Movies. Shout Outs and Spotify Wrapped

Ep 79: Spiderman (all variations), Strange Darling, Misfits, Ticketmaster Outrage & Computer games

Ep 78: Sleep Token gig, Meeting Jeff Goldblum & Kevin Spacey, Movie News, Paul Chicken, Musicals and Kids TV Shows

Ep 77: [Guest 22: Ben] The Geek Episode: Sci-Fi, Star Wars & The Taskmaster Experience

Ep 76: TV Comedy shows from Fonejacker to Father Ted & Kneecap Review

Ep 75: [Guest 21: Ross] Crazy stories from working in Odeon Cinema & nostalgia from working in Blockbusters

[Spoiler Review 4] A Nightmare on Elm Street (40th anniversary)

Ep 74: [Guest 20: Michael] Movie News & Recommendations, Nostalgia TV & Quiz on Nepotism/Bond Themes/Soundtracks

Ep 73: The Resurrection Episode - We reflect on Emmanuel Bonami appearance + Don't Move & Heretic

Ep 72: [Guest 19: Emmanuel Bonami & Joana Pido] Stand Up Comedian & a shock surprise for the team with Emmanuel Bonami (Plus regulars Kate & Gareth)

[Spoiler Review 3] Terrifier 3 (with regular guest from NY Peter)

Ep 71: Halloween Special, Horror Quiz, Movie News & Top 5 Horrors 2024

Ep 70: [Guest 18: Emma & Kate] Therapy session with 2 regular guests

Ep 69: [Guest 17: Michael] Movie budgets, Tesla Robots, confidence & we debate Politics and the Covid Vaccine

[Spoiler Review 2] Joker: Folie à Deux (With Regular guest Michael)

Ep 68: [Guest 16: Eleanor] Green Day gig, Horror movies, riding horses, rescuing cats, modelling and photography

Ep 67: [Guest 15: Chris] Music, Taskmaster Experience, Conspiracy Theories & P Diddy

Ep 66: Us 3 back together with Show & Tell, talking new Netflix series, Movie News & The Substance

Ep 65: [Guest 14: Arran Green] BONUS Action movies, stunts and CGI.

Ep 65: [Guest 14: Arran Green] We grill this Cinematographer about working with Eminem & his experience in the industry

Ep 64: [Guest 13: Liv] BONUS Meeting a Hollywood Mega Star, guessing heights, Barbie and Unconscious Bias

Ep 63: [Guest 13: Liv] talking Modelling, Law Degree, Rugby and Living abroad

Ep 62: [Guest 12: Saoirse] Fashion Model & works in Education. We talk music, gigs & movies

EP 61: Beetlejuice 2, afrAId, Rebel Ridge & a Beatles weekend in Liverpool

EP 60: Kev & James do top 10 lists & discuss classic movies that were originally panned by critics

Ep 59: [Guest 11: Elijah Baker] Actor from The Batman; we talk auditions and his love of movies

Ep 58: From American Psycho to new movies Blink Twice, The Crow and the importance of Music & Atmosphere

Ep 57: Alien Romulus Review, New Rage Whale Music & The Predator is in Cornwall

Ep 56: [Guest 10: Kate] Movies adapted from Books, France, Bonami, Peter Andre & Paul Chicken Adventures & a 'Guest 2 Guest' question section

Ep 55: [Guest 9: Kate] Laughing uncontrollably, we discuss the 'Diary Of A CEO' podcast, losing eyes, poetry & Gender Roles

Ep 54: [Guest 8: Aaron] Discuss living in Sweden, Photography, have a food related question from the audience & Review TRAP

Ep 53: Borderlands, Our Podcast Analytics, Disney Announcements & The Olympics Closing Ceremony

Ep 52: [Guest 7: Gareth & Chris] BONUS James wants it to end, so we don't let it.